Indian Gang Rape woman dead
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J4CKO said:
Their arguments are like when my eldest was three and we left the biscuit barrel in his reach and he got caught scoffing as many as he could, he just said "Well, they were there, you left them what else am I meant to do ?"
It is pointless trying to understand them, as it would be them trying to understand your point of view. Education is key, but for a third world country this will take many generations to reach the first world levels of acceptable behavior. Newsnight just covered this. Felt physically sick listening to the rapist (and his lawyers) blame the victim for what happened.
Worse still was the fact that even the poor victim blamed herself, in part, for what happened. Her mother said her last words before her heart monitor flat-lined were 'mum, sorry that I've brought you so much grief'.
There is something very wrong with a society when women are made to feel like that.
And now the Indians have gone and banned the film from being shown because they are embarrassed that the filmmaker got access to the rapist.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-3171024...
Worse still was the fact that even the poor victim blamed herself, in part, for what happened. Her mother said her last words before her heart monitor flat-lined were 'mum, sorry that I've brought you so much grief'.
There is something very wrong with a society when women are made to feel like that.And now the Indians have gone and banned the film from being shown because they are embarrassed that the filmmaker got access to the rapist.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-3171024...
RobGT81 said:
Not the slightest bit of remorse, it was the victims fault :-/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-31698154
I just read this article and popped in to see if was in a thread.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-31698154
Truly, truly abhorrent and makes your skin crawl. The attitudes reflected in the article are not surprising if you are brought up believing this way and the majority of people around you hold the same views. To some degree the poor victim did too which is equally distressing.
Brother D said:
It is pointless trying to understand them, as it would be them trying to understand your point of view. Education is key, but for a third world country this will take many generations to reach the first world levels of acceptable behavior.
That's quite a bizarre interpretation.... Certainly a cultural issue but I'd hazard a guess that you're clueless as to why. How would you plan to educate them if you don't actually understand why this behavior comes about?Having read the guys interview - I'd guess it's related to the role of females in old Indian society. Typically being seen as property/responsibility of the father during childhood, husband after marriage and sons during old age. Which is obviously effects many different aspects of cultural change in that society. The seeds of change relate to an entire cultural paradigm shift which is an ongoing process.
Women have more of a voice there than ever before, let's not forget it wasn't that long ago that women were better seen and not heard here. Along with widespread condemnation of black/gay/insert your grouping here.
While you stick to a them and us view, your very judgement will keep you in the dark ages along with people like this.
digger_R said:
That's quite a bizarre interpretation.... Certainly a cultural issue but I'd hazard a guess that you're clueless as to why. How would you plan to educate them if you don't actually understand why this behavior comes about?
Having read the guys interview - I'd guess it's related to the role of females in old Indian society. Typically being seen as property/responsibility of the father during childhood, husband after marriage and sons during old age. Which is obviously effects many different aspects of cultural change in that society. The seeds of change relate to an entire cultural paradigm shift which is an ongoing process.
Women have more of a voice there than ever before, let's not forget it wasn't that long ago that women were better seen and not heard here. Along with widespread condemnation of black/gay/insert your grouping here.
While you stick to a them and us view, your very judgement will keep you in the dark ages along with people like this.
He made a judgement regarding their behaviour and the way their society perpetuates it, they raped and mutilated someone, not even on the same page - not even the same book.Having read the guys interview - I'd guess it's related to the role of females in old Indian society. Typically being seen as property/responsibility of the father during childhood, husband after marriage and sons during old age. Which is obviously effects many different aspects of cultural change in that society. The seeds of change relate to an entire cultural paradigm shift which is an ongoing process.
Women have more of a voice there than ever before, let's not forget it wasn't that long ago that women were better seen and not heard here. Along with widespread condemnation of black/gay/insert your grouping here.
While you stick to a them and us view, your very judgement will keep you in the dark ages along with people like this.
The broadcast of the documentary and interviews has been banned in India. I think that says a lot about the mentality over there.
http://news.sky.com/story/1438361/india-bans-delhi...
http://news.sky.com/story/1438361/india-bans-delhi...
RobGT81 said:
The broadcast of the documentary and interviews has been banned in India. I think that says a lot about the mentality over there.
http://news.sky.com/story/1438361/india-bans-delhi...
...It will be on you-tube soon enough so matters not. Public mood will prevail soon enough.http://news.sky.com/story/1438361/india-bans-delhi...
The news story as I heard it yesterday was about as sickening as a news story can be. Perhaps this is a bit tenuous but this documentary on the British suffragette movement is quite eye opening with regards what the establishment used to think about rights for women. And that's not meant as some sort of "we were just as bad" comment - it's just interesting and surprising. For me anyway.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0544j0j/suff...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0544j0j/suff...
The Indian politicians (and the Delhi police who originally got the court to ban it) are behaving like the Mullahs in Iran or the crackpots in North Korea. Not only is this a morally bankrupt position they have taken but it's also a counter productive one because now many more will be watching 'India's daughter' both outside of India and within India online.
bbc said:
"India's home minister has threatened action against the BBC, after it aired a film in the UK featuring an interview with an Indian rapist on death row.
Rajnath Singh said he would investigate whether "norms have been violated".
Analysts say it is unclear what action he could take as the BBC did not show the film in India, where it is banned."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-31745138Rajnath Singh said he would investigate whether "norms have been violated".
Analysts say it is unclear what action he could take as the BBC did not show the film in India, where it is banned."
RobGT81 said:
Video removed, the power of censorshipMermaid said:
RobGT81 said:
Video removed, the power of censorshipBlackLabel said:
Mermaid said:
RobGT81 said:
Video removed, the power of censorshiphttp://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05534p0/stor...
raftom said:
There are many more copies available. It seems the Indian government has no concept of the Streisand effect, and serves them right, the b
ds.
Agreed, too late to stop it now ( but could be legal issues).ds.Reminds me of this:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/prin...
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