Ulster Flag Protests
Discussion
saaby93 said:
Is anyone surprised by this?
The number of days the flag is flown is cut in one swoop from 365 to 20 and they expect no-one to notice?
In NI?
Crazy
If it was going to change why not gradually?
eg only flown when the assembly is sitting?
Stormont(NI's parliment) and most Council buildings only fly the flag on a limited number of preset days.The number of days the flag is flown is cut in one swoop from 365 to 20 and they expect no-one to notice?
In NI?
Crazy
If it was going to change why not gradually?
eg only flown when the assembly is sitting?
Belfast City hall was one of the few Council/Government buildings(if not the only one) left flying the Union Jack everyday.
As far as I'm aware Council/Government buildings in England don't fly the flag everyday
So the change makes the City hall fit in with everyother Council/Government building, but there is all this fuss
Crazy isn't it
Edited by Hyde on Tuesday 8th January 13:48
Hyde said:
Stormont(NI's parliment) and most Council buildings only fly the flag on a limited number of preset days.
Belfast City hall was one of the few Council/Government buildings(if not the only one) left flying the Union Jack everyday.
As far as I'm aware Council/Government buildings in England don't fly the flag everyday
So the change makes the City hall fit in with everyother Council/Government building, but there is all this fuss
Crazy isn't it
They have been told this, but choose to ignore it because it doesn't fit with their own idea of Britishness. There is more to the whole rioting thing than just the flag - the dumb monkeys who are on the streets are being manipulated by the gang leaders with their own agenda.Belfast City hall was one of the few Council/Government buildings(if not the only one) left flying the Union Jack everyday.
As far as I'm aware Council/Government buildings in England don't fly the flag everyday
So the change makes the City hall fit in with everyother Council/Government building, but there is all this fuss
Crazy isn't it
Edited by Hyde on Tuesday 8th January 13:48
BTW Sway, most NI people I know are really nice, great sense of humour, generous (did you know they give more to charity per capita than anywhere in the UK?), and they enjoy a drink. But there are 4 cultures here, not the 2 we're always told about. Two are the extremists of loyalism/republicanism and the other two are the middle-classes of both religions who sit back, batten down the hatches, and try to pretend that it has nothing to do with them. They could do something about it if they put their minds to it, but it's probably too late.
I don't doubt it.
The shock for me was that you typically believe that those at the extremes are obvious, and typically ill educated and unsuccessful in wider society.
The shock for me was a) being on the receiving end of prejudice, something I've never experienced before and b) how successful these guys had been in both their careers and in hiding their beliefs.
In fact, as stated originally, none of us could understand what was behind their behaviour until beer and football showed us quite unpalatably what the underlying belief structure was.
I may well be over in NI later in the year for work, I'll give you a shout so you can demonstrate that generosity - in the local pub!
The shock for me was that you typically believe that those at the extremes are obvious, and typically ill educated and unsuccessful in wider society.
The shock for me was a) being on the receiving end of prejudice, something I've never experienced before and b) how successful these guys had been in both their careers and in hiding their beliefs.
In fact, as stated originally, none of us could understand what was behind their behaviour until beer and football showed us quite unpalatably what the underlying belief structure was.
I may well be over in NI later in the year for work, I'll give you a shout so you can demonstrate that generosity - in the local pub!
Hyde said:
Stormont(NI's parliment) and most Council buildings only fly the flag on a limited number of preset days.
Belfast City hall was one of the few Council/Government buildings (if not the only one) left flying the Union Jack everyday.
As far as I'm aware Council/Government buildings in England don't fly the flag everyday
So the change makes the City hall fit in with every other Council/Government building, but there is all this fuss
Crazy isn't it
It's a marketing issue?Belfast City hall was one of the few Council/Government buildings (if not the only one) left flying the Union Jack everyday.
As far as I'm aware Council/Government buildings in England don't fly the flag everyday
So the change makes the City hall fit in with every other Council/Government building, but there is all this fuss
Crazy isn't it
Does it matter if the flag was flown every day? Was anyone bothered?
Why not fly a few other flags too?
If it was proving too expensive couldnt they have reduced the number of days gradually
Or sell off the building and move to a swanky new one with a different flag regime
People dont like change
Sway said:
I don't doubt it.
The shock for me was that you typically believe that those at the extremes are obvious, and typically ill educated and unsuccessful in wider society.
The shock for me was a) being on the receiving end of prejudice, something I've never experienced before and b) how successful these guys had been in both their careers and in hiding their beliefs.
In fact, as stated originally, none of us could understand what was behind their behaviour until beer and football showed us quite unpalatably what the underlying belief structure was.
I may well be over in NI later in the year for work, I'll give you a shout so you can demonstrate that generosity - in the local pub!
I'm as tight as a duck's whatsit. I'm English but have lived here for 30 years. Sometimes it's like living in a foreign country - the atmosphere of society is like nothing I've ever experienced in GB, much more akin I would imagine to the Irish. Which is what makes their claim to Britishness even more odd.The shock for me was that you typically believe that those at the extremes are obvious, and typically ill educated and unsuccessful in wider society.
The shock for me was a) being on the receiving end of prejudice, something I've never experienced before and b) how successful these guys had been in both their careers and in hiding their beliefs.
In fact, as stated originally, none of us could understand what was behind their behaviour until beer and football showed us quite unpalatably what the underlying belief structure was.
I may well be over in NI later in the year for work, I'll give you a shout so you can demonstrate that generosity - in the local pub!
They're friendly until you disagree with their way of life. The 12th July is more important than Xmas to them- a huge annual event. It's difficult to get across to mainlanders that their culture is like nothing known elsewhere, except perhaps parts of Glasgow. There's a march to celebrate anything, even the Lodge master's dog's birthday. Everything has to stop for them, and the police charge huge bills to Stormont, and then pass the cost to Westminster.
I've hated every year. I stay for a reason, but I'm depressed by it all. Weirdos.
nicanary said:
I'm as tight as a duck's whatsit. I'm English but have lived here for 30 years. Sometimes it's like living in a foreign country - the atmosphere of society is like nothing I've ever experienced in GB, much more akin I would imagine to the Irish. Which is what makes their claim to Britishness even more odd.
They're friendly until you disagree with their way of life. The 12th July is more important than Xmas to them- a huge annual event. It's difficult to get across to mainlanders that their culture is like nothing known elsewhere, except perhaps parts of Glasgow. There's a march to celebrate anything, even the Lodge master's dog's birthday. Everything has to stop for them, and the police charge huge bills to Stormont, and then pass the cost to Westminster.
I've hated every year. I stay for a reason, but I'm depressed by it all. Weirdos.
Such overblown dramatic nonsense. They're friendly until you disagree with their way of life. The 12th July is more important than Xmas to them- a huge annual event. It's difficult to get across to mainlanders that their culture is like nothing known elsewhere, except perhaps parts of Glasgow. There's a march to celebrate anything, even the Lodge master's dog's birthday. Everything has to stop for them, and the police charge huge bills to Stormont, and then pass the cost to Westminster.
I've hated every year. I stay for a reason, but I'm depressed by it all. Weirdos.
Papa Hotel said:
Such overblown dramatic nonsense.
Weeelll... the bit about the dog's birthday was made up. I live in a town with high unemployment and a huge majority of working-class loyalists - they basically run the town. Where I come from, people like that tend to stay-put on their estates and not meddle in things they know nothing about. Not here, but I suppose that's perfect democracy.In the past 20 years, I've been mugged 7 times, and had three cars stolen. Low-life. I used to live "back home" in a respectable area, and I'm simply not used to living like this. I know, I know, there are place all over the UK like that now, but I simply associate it with the people in this town.
nicanary said:
Weeelll... the bit about the dog's birthday was made up. I live in a town with high unemployment and a huge majority of working-class loyalists - they basically run the town. Where I come from, people like that tend to stay-put on their estates and not meddle in things they know nothing about. Not here, but I suppose that's perfect democracy.
In the past 20 years, I've been mugged 7 times, and had three cars stolen. Low-life. I used to live "back home" in a respectable area, and I'm simply not used to living like this. I know, I know, there are place all over the UK like that now, but I simply associate it with the people in this town.
Right, so a bunch of poorly-educated knobheads in the sIn the past 20 years, I've been mugged 7 times, and had three cars stolen. Low-life. I used to live "back home" in a respectable area, and I'm simply not used to living like this. I know, I know, there are place all over the UK like that now, but I simply associate it with the people in this town.
tty area you live in are representative of the mindset of an entire country of 1.8 million people? Quite a lot of that was made up, wasn't it? Pure conjecture and melodrama.
In 24 years in NI I was never mugged and never had a car stolen, I guess you're mixing with the wrong people. Mainland UK isn't a bed of roses either FYI, there are s
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