Ever feel like you've been swindled?

[Puggit]

P-Jay said:

The wording is a little unclear, but I've read that as Global Warming continues at a steady rate, rather than an increasing rate, which isn't the same as Global Warming has stopped.

Which is kind of like the way George Osborne likes to sound like he's cutting the deficit when in fact he's actually cutting the rate that it's growing at.

This bit in the headline tells me temperatures will remain the same for about 2 decades.

Telegraph said:

The Met Office has downgraded its forecast for global warming to suggest that by 2017 temperatures will have remained about the same for two decades.

[DonkeyApple]

Justayellowbadge said:

I once clicked on a Soovy thread, expecting my RDA of immigrant hating bile and scantily clad nano-celebs, and was confronted by The Telegraph.

The bloody Telegraph.

How the devil am I supposed to know which bikinis former members of the Pussycat Dolls are sporting on their winter breaks?

Will this suffice?: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance...

[Piersman2]

Like Y2K, disaster has been diverted. Our huge additional taxes, levies and diesel cars have done the job.


But we must be vigilant and keep it up, no doubt!

[crankedup]

TTwiggy said:

It's because we're all recycling and driving diesel cars

I've cut down on my curry dinners if that helps.

[P-Jay]

Puggit said:

P-Jay said:

The wording is a little unclear, but I've read that as Global Warming continues at a steady rate, rather than an increasing rate, which isn't the same as Global Warming has stopped.

Which is kind of like the way George Osborne likes to sound like he's cutting the deficit when in fact he's actually cutting the rate that it's growing at.

This bit in the headline tells me temperatures will remain the same for about 2 decades.

Telegraph said:

The Met Office has downgraded its forecast for global warming to suggest that by 2017 temperatures will have remained about the same for two decades.

Never trust a headline, anyway I must be having a thick day (more than likely) but I'm just reading about tempertures above average from between 0.2c and 0.4c year on year, or is there a 'set average' for yearly temp?

God, I've got to get some sleep this week, this is hardly Rocket Surgery.

[mybrainhurts]

crankedup said:

TTwiggy said:

It's because we're all recycling and driving diesel cars

I've cut down on my curry dinners if that helps.

Ok, then, I'll increase mine to correct the balance...

[Tycho]

AJS- said:

I do feel swindled. Now that a government agency has admitted global warming was a con, I feel sure that it will happen, and by 2017 we'll all be huddled under palm trees watching the sea lap up the slopes of the Pennines.

Notice the get out clause?

"However, it is thought that factors such as ocean current patterns may be behind the slowdown and scientists say the “variability” in climate change does not alter the long-term trend of rising temperatures."

[Soovy]

Justayellowbadge said:

Soovy said:

Ever feel like you've been swindled?

I once clicked on a Soovy thread, expecting my RDA of immigrant hating bile and scantily clad nano-celebs, and was confronted by The Telegraph.

The bloody Telegraph.

How the devil am I supposed to know which bikinis former members of the Pussycat Dolls are sporting on their winter breaks?

[AJS-]

Tycho said:

AJS- said:

I do feel swindled. Now that a government agency has admitted global warming was a con, I feel sure that it will happen, and by 2017 we'll all be huddled under palm trees watching the sea lap up the slopes of the Pennines.

Notice the get out clause?

"However, it is thought that factors such as ocean current patterns may be behind the slowdown and scientists say the “variability” in climate change does not alter the long-term trend of rising temperatures."

Ahh, that's a shame. I was just looking for some beach front property near Penrith.

[Pesty]

Well yes of course. CO2 levels are lower now than there were 20 years ago thus proving the link between CO2 and global warming.

The levels are lower because of wind mills.

Q.E.D

Keep paying taxes people

[Otispunkmeyer]

crankedup said:

TTwiggy said:

It's because we're all recycling and driving diesel cars

I've cut down on my curry dinners if that helps.

indeed it does... Methane is about 40x more powerful than CO2 as a GHG. Water vapour too... is even stronger I think and during combustion you get 2 water for every 1 CO2. They can't tax water though now can they, or ask you to wear a butt plug.

[DonkeyApple]

P-Jay said:

Never trust a headline, anyway I must be having a thick day (more than likely) but I'm just reading about tempertures above average from between 0.2c and 0.4c year on year, or is there a 'set average' for yearly temp?

God, I've got to get some sleep this week, this is hardly Rocket Surgery.

There is a significant problem with the use of historic temperature measurements. That is the real crux of the issue. None of the data can be strictly be used as it simply isn't accurate or consistent.

The main issues lie around firstly the method in which temperature is measured having changed quite considerably and secondly, the local environment of the test stations has changed, either from an increase or decrease in urban environment or industrialisation.

The fact is that we only really have about 30-40 years of genuine data and this all shows from the outset pretty much a steady fall in the increase of temperature.

The actual worrying thing is that we are clearly heading towards a real decline in global temperatures and it only takes a couple of degrees to trigger the emergence of an ice age.

So, what is more dangerous to man? Uninhibited areas being a little warmer or the most habitted places being under metres of ice? Hmmm.