Jessops gone into administration...

Jessops gone into administration...

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JonRB

74,568 posts

272 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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jan50 said:
It also highlights the fact that gift vouchers can be discarded whereas cash can't. I don't think i'll ever buy gift vouchers again and if I ever receive any I will spend them immediately rather than putting them in a drawer.
Indeed. Look on a gift voucher as an unsecured interest-free loan to the company in question, because that's all it is.

daveydave7

1,622 posts

143 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Unlike Comet a quick end it seems
Gift vouchers I wouldn't buy them ever again

Rollcage

11,327 posts

192 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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All closing down, 1700 jobs lost. frown

nellyleelephant

2,705 posts

234 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Sad for those involved.

Info here http://www.jessops.com/



toppstuff

13,698 posts

247 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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So any chance of a cheap camera or lens, or will any stock simply go back to the manufacturers?

JonRB

74,568 posts

272 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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"If you are owed money by Jessops (e.g. due to vouchers not honoured, deposits, returns, pre-paid courses etc) you can register an unsecured creditor claim with the administrators using the form on the PwC website (http://www.pwc.co.uk/jessops). Please note, there is no guarantee that there will be any payment to unsecured creditors of the company. If there is a dividend paid, this will be in many months time and is likely to be only a small proportion of the claimed amount."

And that, folks, is why Vouchers are a mug's game. When you buy vouchers, you are giving that company an unsecured interest-free loan. If they close down, you are an unsecured creditor and if you're lucky you'll get a few pence in the pound back.

singlecoil

33,621 posts

246 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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I expect there will be enough money left to pay the administrators' fees though.

JonRB

74,568 posts

272 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Personally I think the law needs to change and money received for vouchers and deposits should be held in escrow, or at the very least be treated as a highest priority creditor above even secured loans.

Exoticaholic

1,044 posts

212 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Bought a camera from Jessops this afternoon and 90 minutes later, news broke out that all stores were closing down at end of trading (Friday) and all jobs gone. Sad day as I bought a lot of stuff from them and they have never pressured me in buying unnecessary or more expensive stuff.

The brand has been around since 1935 so I hope something comes out of this. But hard to say like the snow...

Oakey

27,576 posts

216 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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If Jessops were still selling vouchers right up to going into administration shouldn't that be seen as fraudulent?


Rollcage

11,327 posts

192 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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singlecoil said:
I expect there will be enough money left to pay the administrators' fees though.
Here we go.....

audidoody

8,597 posts

256 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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JonRB said:
The puns are getting pretty tedious now guys. rolleyes
Indeed. I think we've been over exposed to them now,

Grenoble

Original Poster:

50,510 posts

155 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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singlecoil said:
I expect there will be enough money left to pay the administrators' fees though.
Do you want them to do it for free?

singlecoil

33,621 posts

246 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Grenoble said:
singlecoil said:
I expect there will be enough money left to pay the administrators' fees though.
Do you want them to do it for free?
False dilemma. You are asking me to choose between them charging the kind of money that they do now, and them doing it for free.

Grenoble

Original Poster:

50,510 posts

155 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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singlecoil said:
False dilemma. You are asking me to choose between them charging the kind of money that they do now, and them doing it for free.
Oh I agree, but you didn't offer an alternative. I can't see an easy alternative. People are motivated by payment, perhaps a base payment + long term incentive on a future business model (% of shares?) might be better?

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Oakey said:
If Jessops were still selling vouchers right up to going into administration shouldn't that be seen as fraudulent?
No. It's a black and white situation. Either it's viable to carry on or it's not. Until the "not" takes over it's business as usual.

Think of it like pregnancy. You either are or you aren't. There's no grey.

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

251 months

Saturday 12th January 2013
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10 Pence Short said:
GavinPearson said:
A huge pity, and strange in a way.

Photography has boomed in recent times because it is so accessible, the products may have changed, the mix of products may have changed but the total value of product has increased immensely.

With a brand name that is as well recognised as Jessops I am astounded they couldn't make money.
Considering the death of 35mm and associated revenue streams, and the emergence of the smartphone, I'd love to know what has driven an increase in value in the UK photography market recently. In fact, I imagine so would Jessops.
When I was a lad growing up in Leicestershire I got my first camera and lenses from Jessops and I still have them. Back then, photography was expensive, the cameras were expensive, the film was expensive, and developing it was expensive. And it was difficult. You went on holiday and barely took any photos and then they came back looking mediocre if you were lucky.

Nowadays, nearly everybody has a digital camera on their phone, and people that are enjoying the results are going and buying cameras. Yes, they are digital, but they are cameras, and they still need photos printed. And people still buy all the accessories. The market has grown, the products are just a bit different. They still result in photgraphs that people can put in albums.

The management team that Alan Jessop put together were very, very smart and took a business that was well respected in the Midlands with a single location and making a ton of money and turned it into a national chain that were highly respected and profitable. It was after it was bought out that things went wrong. Having known a few of their original staff I think it's an incredible shame that their legacy was squandered.

Pommygranite

14,257 posts

216 months

Saturday 12th January 2013
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Oakey said:
If Jessops were still selling vouchers right up to going into administration shouldn't that be seen as fraudulent?
No. It's a black and white situation. Either it's viable to carry on or it's not. Until the "not" takes over it's business as usual.

Think of it like pregnancy. You either are or you aren't. There's no grey.
Sepia?

XG332

3,927 posts

188 months

Saturday 12th January 2013
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Popped into my old shop to help where I could.
Apparently the staff were not told until gone 4pm yesterday!

Felt strange boxing up stock in a brand new store.

Oakey

27,576 posts

216 months

Saturday 12th January 2013
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Is that pile of Canon stuff waiting to go to your car? hehe