High Street Brands Going Bust-Who's Next?

High Street Brands Going Bust-Who's Next?

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kiethton

13,917 posts

181 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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Staples - surely with all stationary being available at the supermarkets/online/mail order for business their footfall must be falling.

Hobbycraft - Who goes in there????

Six Fiend

6,067 posts

216 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
lauda said:
greygoose said:
Bang & Olufsen
Interesting one this. I was only commenting to someone the other day that I'd quite like to work in one of their shops as I don't think I've ever seen a customer in one! I have no idea at all what their financial position is like but the store near me in Southampton can't sell more than a handful of products each week.

Perhaps their margins are sufficiently large that this is actually financially viable?
Are they not like Sony shop etc & just a franchise? How many shops do thy have if they are owned?
New one just opened up on Cribbs Causeway in Bristol, next door to BMW, Min & Porsche...

Aren't Argos ditching a lot of their stores in order to focus in internet sales?

mattnunn

14,041 posts

162 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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Mothercare. It is quite simply the worst retail outlet in every way, over priced, under stocked, limited product range and at the risk of abusing the innocent I find the staff to be unhelpful to say the least.

Superdrug always suprises me aswell, who the feck is shopping there, my missus tells me it's no cheaper than Boots.

hornet

6,333 posts

251 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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Sargeant Orange said:
BHS - it's either empty with 100 staff or full of old people buying socks for a couple of quid. The interiors are really dated too.

Holland & Barrett - always empty
I don't understand how BHS survives. Maybe it just manages to fill to pensioner niche that M&S have seemed to want to move away from in recent years? Not so sure about H&B, as the Watford store always seems busy, and they've just moved to bigger premises in the main shopping centre, so can't be doing that badly?

Having this discussion with a friend recently, and the opinion is may of our town centres are simply too big now, as they're a physical retail space in an online world. If you can somehow introduce clusters rather than a linear high street, I think there's hope, as each little bit has something to differentiate it. It's an extreme example, but take Brighton. You have you main area with the usual high street suspects, then the Laines with the vegan cafes and lesbian bookshops. They are two very distinct areas pulling in different types of customers. It's the monoculture that's killing things.

obob

4,193 posts

195 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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mattnunn said:
Mothercare. It is quite simply the worst retail outlet in every way, over priced, under stocked, limited product range and at the risk of abusing the innocent I find the staff to be unhelpful to say the least.

Superdrug always suprises me aswell, who the feck is shopping there, my missus tells me it's no cheaper than Boots.
What is the difference between Boots and Superdrug. If it's no cheaper then people will buy from both. If it was dearer then it would lose market share to Boots

Oakey

27,593 posts

217 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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mattnunn said:
Superdrug always suprises me aswell, who the feck is shopping there, my missus tells me it's no cheaper than Boots.
They don't even sell Super Drugs! That was a huge disappointment.

LordHaveMurci

12,045 posts

170 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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Wacky Racer said:
Adrian W said:
Thorntons
Mothercare
WH Smith
DSG
Doubt it, with their biggest rival Comet gone......

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21055640
And Best Buy pulling out of the UK. They have just posted a healthy(ish) profit too, despite the negative effect of Comet closing down sales.

LordHaveMurci

12,045 posts

170 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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kiethton said:
Upon no basing:

Staples - surely with all stationary being available at the supermarkets/online/mail order for business their footfall must be falling.
Haven't they just closed a lot of stores oop North?

LaurasOtherHalf

Original Poster:

21,429 posts

197 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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Can anyone in the know look how the following have performed over the last 3 year?

Next
Halfords
Argos
BHS
WH Smiths
First Choice

mattnunn

14,041 posts

162 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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hornet said:
I don't understand how BHS survives.
It's part of the Arcadia Group run by Phillip Green which includes a lot of other chains.

I'm no accountancy expert but I think if you had a lot of seperate businesses some of which made a lot of money you'd want some way of spreading the profits around, i suspect that's what BHS is for.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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kiethton said:
Hobbycraft - Who goes in there????
My wife and one of my kids go there quite a lot. Apparently there's really nowhere else now that does a lot of the stuff they sell - shops like the old wool / haberdashery shops that every town had several of have closed.
Craft type stuff is hard to buy online as crafters like to see and feel what they're buying.

speedchick

5,181 posts

223 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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kiethton said:
Hobbycraft - Who goes in there????
  • hand up*, me if I need wire or certain beads in a hurry and can't wait for a postal delivery, but it is usually only as a last resort

gingerpaul

2,929 posts

244 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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LordHaveMurci said:
kiethton said:
Upon no basing:

Staples - surely with all stationary being available at the supermarkets/online/mail order for business their footfall must be falling.
Haven't they just closed a lot of stores oop North?
I think they are closing about 20.

Six Fiend

6,067 posts

216 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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speedchick said:
kiethton said:
Hobbycraft - Who goes in there????
  • hand up*, me if I need wire or certain beads in a hurry and can't wait for a postal delivery, but it is usually only as a last resort
It's hugely popular here (Bristol). always plenty of people in there. Must have lots of arty farty types in this neck of the woods wink

kiethton

13,917 posts

181 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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I'll step back from the Hobbycraft thoughts....

And raise French Connection???

You hardly ever see their clothing about any more and all shops (including those in high footfall areas e.g. Bluewater) are very quiet.

speedchick

5,181 posts

223 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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Staples in Burnley is closing (or has closed), we are also losing Rymans, so that leaves the supermarkets, pound shops or WHSmith for pens etc now.

Re Hobbycraft, I would be happier if we had one a little nearer, at the moment the nearest is Preston. But like I say, its a place of last resort or if I really really need something quick.

LaurasOtherHalf

Original Poster:

21,429 posts

197 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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Six Fiend said:
speedchick said:
kiethton said:
Hobbycraft - Who goes in there????
  • hand up*, me if I need wire or certain beads in a hurry and can't wait for a postal delivery, but it is usually only as a last resort
It's hugely popular here (Bristol). always plenty of people in there. Must have lots of arty farty types in this neck of the woods wink
Just opened up an out of town store in Carlisle, & there ain't too many arty farty types round this way!

Sargeant Orange

2,717 posts

148 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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speedchick said:
  • hand up*, me if I need wire or certain beads in a hurry and can't wait for a postal delivery, but it is usually only as a last resort
eek

LordHaveMurci

12,045 posts

170 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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kiethton said:
I'll step back from the Hobbycraft thoughts....

And raise French Connection???

You hardly ever see their clothing about any more and all shops (including those in high footfall areas e.g. Bluewater) are very quiet.
Haven't FC just posted a profit warning?

Norfolkit

2,394 posts

191 months

Thursday 17th January 2013
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Deva Link said:
turbobloke said:
Gibson70 said:
The internet isn't at fault... the fault lies with the companies who haven't kept up with the times.
yes

Evolve and adapt or go to the wall.

The marketplace doesn't tolerate obsolete lemons for long.
I blame car parking (awkward to get into, small spaces, expensive) myself. Although I think that's something that bothers men more than it does women.
Or blame Labour/Lib.Dem/Green (delete as appropriate) Councils and their car hating policies.