Tony Blair is a national hero
Discussion
legzr1 said:
Digga said:
As a single voter, all an individual really has the power to do is select a local candidate or party. That's how our brand of 'democracy' works, or not, depending on your POV.
I'm aware of how the election process works in this country (although I'll admit to being shocked at how many don't! ).The point remains - T.Blair 'won' quite a few elections but is still accused of not having his 'finger on the pulse'.
On the contrary, he's still admired the world over (yes, I accept that chokes a few PHers), is quite well off and still has the ability to wind up the right-wing morons.
A fool?
Not quite.
A misguided hypocrite who won elections with spin that gulled sufficient sheeple and led the country to the edge of another IMF bailout - while increasing poverty gaps and reducing social mobility.
Any private sector corporate entity is banned by law from doing the same with its avertising programme. Enrichment by conning people is looked down on. Corporates have to be truthful and accurate in their claims.
king yourselves silly over him most nights.dxg said:
I'll just leave these here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2714316/In...
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/aug/03/to...
Awww, shucks.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2714316/In...
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/aug/03/to...
The bloke did good - can't you just be happy for him?
legzr1 said:
The bloke did good - can't you just be happy for him?
He and his successor were a national disaster.A hypocrite conning people via spin remains an unworthy means of obtaining either power or wealth.
This caused a stir back in the day, fast forward 13 years and how right it was.
legze1 said:
if he leaned a little more to the right most of you lot would be wking yourselves silly over him most nights
The thought of anyone wnaking over either Bliar or Postboxgob is nauseating.Ultimately, you can best judge a person by the company they keep, personally (leaving aside the professional relationships with Mandelson and Campbell), and especially by their spouse. The whole story of the wide-mouth frog's grasping supermarket sweep on a trip to Australia sealed it for me.
turbobloke said:
Personally he (edit: Revd. Blair) could well be worth exactly £325,000 at the moment, and at any time in the current tax year.
Somebody should ask where the other £49,675,000 has been stashed to avoid IHT.
Not that wealth and lawful tax avoidance are bad things, it's the oily self-righteous hypocrisy that grates.
Private Eye has touched on some discrepancies in terms of tax liability from work done vs. some of the company/foundation/whatever accounts and expenses in the last few years... Somebody should ask where the other £49,675,000 has been stashed to avoid IHT.
Not that wealth and lawful tax avoidance are bad things, it's the oily self-righteous hypocrisy that grates.
That plastic thing will look good on his defence stand at the War Crimes Tribunal in The Hague. As will the Award
.Guam said:
The Mash would have been funnier had they just ran with the actual story that Tony Blair has won GQ Philanthropist of the Year because the entire concept sounds like a Mash article.It's bizarre really - I'm thinking I'm no nearer to understanding who this Blair chap is even after all this time. Not that I give him too much thought now that Milliband bestrides the Westminster 'globe' like a colossus on behalf of the working man...
Blair's a cypher, a shell, a conduit...much like dear departed David Frost (massively recogniseable but no-one really knew who he was, either).
Blair's a cypher, a shell, a conduit...much like dear departed David Frost (massively recogniseable but no-one really knew who he was, either).
Morningside said:
turbobloke said:
The thought of anyone wnaking over either Bliar or Postboxgob is nauseating.
Agreed but that doesn't invalidate my point - he was great for some. Unfortunately, not you and yours.Shame
Who'd have thunk - a labour leader showing greasy Tories the real meaning of manipulation...
legzr1 said:
turbobloke said:
The thought of anyone wnaking over either Bliar or Postboxgob is nauseating.
Agreed but that doesn't invalidate my point - he was great for some. Unfortunately, not you and yours.Shame
legzr1 said:
Who'd have thunk - a labour leader showing greasy Tories the real meaning of manipulation...
No thunk is needed, a greasy Labour snake oil salesman could show the world a thing or two, and indeed he is.The Hypno-Toad said:
I couldn't do it, too well known.;)
Where's Edward Fox when you need him?
Running free after the ban on hunting I expect.Where's Edward Fox when you need him?
Not long ago there was a certain twitter user upset with some airport in the north - a 'joke' on said social claptrap saw him arrested.
Fast forward to a 'joke' on PH mentioning assassination of a former PM.
Was that a knock at the door?....
turbobloke said:
Not so, the Labour years were a land of milk and honey for my businesses, and therefore me, but a disaster for the country as a whole after thirteen years, which is why I comment as I do.
Ditto - worked in Banking - but they were also years of greed and unhappiness. I for voted Major in 1997 and was taken aback by the optimism surrounding him. People talk about the Big Bang & the excesses of the 80s but the Noughties were much uglier IMO - people and public institutions spending money they didn't have. Didn't really benefit or hinder me too much as I never took on substantial debt but I didn't enjoy the party.Edited by fido on Wednesday 3rd September 15:46
turbobloke said:
Not so, the Labour years were a land of milk and honey for my businesses, and therefore me, but a disaster for the country as a whole after thirteen years, which is why I comment as I do.
I expect you've given thought to returning the milk and honey then?Who knows, perhaps you could make the G&Q list next year.
You'd have my vote
turbobloke said:
No thunk is needed, a greasy Labour snake oil salesman could show the world a thing or two, and indeed he is.
Let the voters decide.You're in a win/win situation arent't you?
'They' get in and you feather your nest whist retaining the right to spit bile at every opportunity or they don't get in and you can regale us with tales of how the thick minions followed your lead.
legzr1 said:
turbobloke said:
Not so, the Labour years were a land of milk and honey for my businesses, and therefore me, but a disaster for the country as a whole after thirteen years, which is why I comment as I do.
I expect you've given thought to returning the milk and honey then?legzr1 said:
Let the voters decide.
Blair is re-entering UK politics?
legzr1 said:
You're in a win/win situation arent't you?
'They' get in and you feather your nest whist retaining the right to spit bile at every opportunity or they don't get in and you can regale us with tales of how the thick minions followed your lead.
Thick minions won't follow my lead, they'll vote Labour as usual 'They' get in and you feather your nest whist retaining the right to spit bile at every opportunity or they don't get in and you can regale us with tales of how the thick minions followed your lead.
As above, I don't need Labour and would rather the country prosper as a whole than see another spell where poverty gaps widen and social mobility drops as Labour steers UK plc towards another cap-in-hand meeting with the IMF.
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