Car thief brothers killed in car crash

[Andy Zarse]

I initially thought this story was about two new scrotes who had perished in the execution of their crimes; in addition to the pair who last week ended up spilled on the pavement just like a big upsidedown bucket of overcooked KFC.

I read this in an initially buoyant frame of mind but was disappointed to note that it's the same ones... still, learning that another little paracite had been removed permanently from the mean streets of Reading was some small consolation.

[collateral]

"Best" and "Crooks"

[LostBMW]

MocMocaMoc said:

This forum never fails to surprise.

To those responding 'GOOD'.

A car was stolen and people have died - a 'good' end to this tale would be the reversal of time, for no car to have been stolen and no one to have died.

What happened is in no way 'good'. It's a sad and tragic story.

I retract that - a 'good' end to this story would be for everyone who replied with 'good' to never ever voice their opinion on anything ever again.

GOOD.

You are Shami Chakrabarti a.i.c.m.p

[MocMocaMoc]

Wow, I've done well here!

While I absolutely cant be ar*ed with arguing against the internet, I'd be equally well off shouting at the tide, I still fail to see (despite some truly excellent sarcasm gleefully illustrating what I should be thinking) how two, lets say 'errant' personalities climbing into someone else's car, wrapping it, killing themselves in the process CAN POSSIBLY EVER BE SEEN AS A GOOD THING TO HAPPEN IN OUR SOCIETY?!

Yes they're unlikely to be bothering anyone again, but do you really see the world in such a 2D state to assume that these people were simply 'scum'?!

Did you derive your morality from an 80's action film?

I feel bad for everyone involved - the families of those killed, the thieves for living such an apparently stty life, the victims of any crimes committed, and everyone else dragged into the whole affair. No one's come out a winner here...

Except for the gobste's with a right leaning sense of justice who love a good horror story. They came out singing! I'm picturing you all firing your AK47's in to the air right now.

[Justices]

collateral said:

"Best" and "Crooks"

I can't believe it took until the 2nd-to-last post for this to come up! What ironic surnames they possessed given the outcome of their thievery.

[otolith]

MocMocaMoc said:

Yes they're unlikely to be bothering anyone again, but do you really see the world in such a 2D state to assume that these people were simply 'scum'?!

Do you have a better word for people who burgle houses for car keys?

[DAVEVO9]

Fantastic!!

I do hope it was a very slow crispy death

[McWigglebum3rd]

MocMocaMoc said:

Wow, I've done well here!

While I absolutely cant be ar*ed with arguing against the internet, I'd be equally well off shouting at the tide, I still fail to see (despite some truly excellent sarcasm gleefully illustrating what I should be thinking) how two, lets say 'errant' personalities climbing into someone else's car, wrapping it, killing themselves in the process CAN POSSIBLY EVER BE SEEN AS A GOOD THING TO HAPPEN IN OUR SOCIETY?!

Yes they're unlikely to be bothering anyone again, but do you really see the world in such a 2D state to assume that these people were simply 'scum'?!

Did you derive your morality from an 80's action film?

I feel bad for everyone involved - the families of those killed, the thieves for living such an apparently stty life, the victims of any crimes committed, and everyone else dragged into the whole affair. No one's come out a winner here...

Except for the gobste's with a right leaning sense of justice who love a good horror story. They came out singing! I'm picturing you all firing your AK47's in to the air right now.

True

It would of been a far better outcome if the scum weren't scum

While we have a justice system that fails to stop scum being scum you are going to get people being pleased when scum meets an unpleasant end

I for one am pleased as this scum being a bit toasty but i would be far more pleased if they had been turned around before they reached this point and became useful members of society

[MocMocaMoc]

otolith said:

Do you have a better word for people who burgle houses for car keys?

Unfortunate human beings... ? How's that?

Look, they were being dicks. And I'd not want to live near them, or anyone of their 'disposition'. My compassion seemingly only extends are far as a keyboard, but to happily sing how excellent the whole situation is?

Is retarded.

[otolith]

MocMocaMoc said:

otolith said:

Do you have a better word for people who burgle houses for car keys?

Unfortunate human beings... ? How's that?

Look, they were being dicks. And I'd not want to live near them, or anyone of their 'disposition'. My compassion seemingly only extends are far as a keyboard, but to happily sing how excellent the whole situation is?

Is retarded.

"Unfortunate human beings" would describe the people whose house they broke into, whose cars they destroyed, or - but for blind luck - who they could have mowed down and killed when losing control of a car at three figure in a built up area.

"Victims of their own stupidity and wickedness" I could live with. I have no sympathy for them, and I don't feel the world is a worse place for their absence. Quite the converse.

[nyxster]

MocMocaMoc said:

Unfortunate human beings... ? How's that?

Look, they were being dicks. And I'd not want to live near them, or anyone of their 'disposition'. My compassion seemingly only extends are far as a keyboard, but to happily sing how excellent the whole situation is?

Is retarded.

The problem is how much compassion do you think they would have had if they had killed a innocent bystander? Would they have stopped and rendered first aid and called an ambulance or made a run for it?

The point of my less than serious earlier post was that people committing such crimes generally act so far outside the regard of societies rules which are generally there to prevent harm to them or others that they sooner or late become victims of their own misadventure. We should be thankful nobody but the perps were harmed for once.

Should we feel sympathy for them? About as much as most criminals feel for their victims.

Being dicks is pulling donuts in your local home base car park.

Committing aggravated burglary to steal a car and driving at 100mph in a residential street to evade the police is serious criminality.

Let's face it a motoring forum full of powerfully built directors is not going to provoke some sort of mums net reaction is it so I'm surprised you are surprised as to the prevailing lack of crocodile tears for the deceased.

[TankRizzo]

MocMocaMoc said:

Unfortunate human beings... ? How's that?

Look, they were being dicks. And I'd not want to live near them, or anyone of their 'disposition'. My compassion seemingly only extends are far as a keyboard, but to happily sing how excellent the whole situation is?

Is retarded.

If it makes you feel all virtuous to feel sorry for them, crack on. Don't expect much support from the majority of us on a motoring forum who care about their possessions, though.

[CobolMan]

Justices said:

I can't believe it took until the 2nd-to-last post for this to come up! What ironic surnames they possessed given the outcome of their thievery.

Have a look at ajh38's post on page 1. Having had the misfortune of teaching scrotes like that many years ago I have no sympathy for them.

[Butter Face]

TankRizzo said:

MocMocaMoc said:

Unfortunate human beings... ? How's that?

Look, they were being dicks. And I'd not want to live near them, or anyone of their 'disposition'. My compassion seemingly only extends are far as a keyboard, but to happily sing how excellent the whole situation is?

Is retarded.

If it makes you feel all virtuous to feel sorry for them, crack on. Don't expect much support from the majority of us on a motoring forum who care about their possessions, though.

Quite.

'unfortunate human beings' my backside. Everyone is judged by the actions they take, if your actions end with you dead in a stolen car then it's your own bloody fault and you are a 'moron' or a 'waste of good oxygen' not an 'unfortunate human being'

That definition is more apt for people born in the third world, who never have a chance and will spend every day just trying to stay alive. Living in manchester and stealing cars doesn't quite cut it.

[nottyash]

MocMocaMoc said:

otolith said:

Do you have a better word for people who burgle houses for car keys?

Unfortunate human beings... ? How's that?

Look, they were being dicks. And I'd not want to live near them, or anyone of their 'disposition'. My compassion seemingly only extends are far as a keyboard, but to happily sing how excellent the whole situation is?

Is retarded.

Unfortunate human beings?
Now thats a really pathetic excuse.
Breaking into someones home, Robbing them of thier possesions, and then to drive in such an irrisponsible way anyone else could of been killed, be it your or my children, friends or family is far from unfortunate.
The world is a better and safer place without them.
Over and out.

[Jasandjules]

An unfortunate human being is one who has nursed/cared for others yet gotten cancer - like my friend who had surgery and is recovering from it. And who has to have more surgery just to give her a half decent chance to live.

People who steal cars are not unfortunate.

[Adrian W]

MocMocaMoc said:

Wow, I've done well here!

While I absolutely cant be ar*ed with arguing against the internet, I'd be equally well off shouting at the tide, I still fail to see (despite some truly excellent sarcasm gleefully illustrating what I should be thinking) how two, lets say 'errant' personalities climbing into someone else's car, wrapping it, killing themselves in the process CAN POSSIBLY EVER BE SEEN AS A GOOD THING TO HAPPEN IN OUR SOCIETY?!

Yes they're unlikely to be bothering anyone again, but do you really see the world in such a 2D state to assume that these people were simply 'scum'?!

Did you derive your morality from an 80's action film?

I feel bad for everyone involved - the families of those killed, the thieves for living such an apparently stty life, the victims of any crimes committed, and everyone else dragged into the whole affair. No one's come out a winner here...

Except for the gobste's with a right leaning sense of justice who love a good horror story. They came out singing! I'm picturing you all firing your AK47's in to the air right now.

In this case I think you're in a minority of one, does that tell you something

[LostBMW]

nottyash said:

MocMocaMoc said:

otolith said:

Do you have a better word for people who burgle houses for car keys?

Unfortunate human beings... ? How's that?

Look, they were being dicks. And I'd not want to live near them, or anyone of their 'disposition'. My compassion seemingly only extends are far as a keyboard, but to happily sing how excellent the whole situation is?

Is retarded.

Unfortunate human beings?
Now thats a really pathetic excuse.
Breaking into someones home, Robbing them of thier possesions, and then to drive in such an irrisponsible way anyone else could of been killed, be it your or my children, friends or family is far from unfortunate.
The world is a better and safer place without them.
Over and out.

Exactly. It's the simpering, do-gooder handwringers and politically correct types such as those in govt. and the judiciary, and even in sections of the media, who have led us to a place where so many are prey to worthless vermin like this.

Add a 'good riddance to the scum' to the bank from me.

[Jessicus]

MocMocaMoc said:

This forum never fails to surprise.

To those responding 'GOOD'.

A car was stolen and people have died - a 'good' end to this tale would be the reversal of time, for no car to have been stolen and no one to have died.

What happened is in no way 'good'. It's a sad and tragic story.

I retract that - a 'good' end to this story would be for everyone who replied with 'good' to never ever voice their opinion on anything ever again.

GOOD.

Forget good - I hope that their last moments on this earth were full of fear, pain and regret for the way that they had chosen to live their lives.

These weren't unfortunate people - they had the fortune to be born in the UK. A place with free education up to 18, a free health service, a (mostly) democratic government and a place which has social security from cradle to grave. A place where no-one needs to commit crime.

They CHOSE to enrich themselves by violating other peoples property, causing fear and untold misery.

I hope their deaths were agonizing.

[sleep envy]

On the upside, two fewer to further pollute the gene pool.