Oscar Pistorius shoots girlfriend

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Mermaid said:

Televised on Sky? Channel number?

Watching the feed here: http://www.news24.com/Multimedia/Video/SouthAfrica...

[KTF]

Mr Dickson just got a knife stuck in him as well. Clever.

[Mermaid]

KTF said:

Mermaid said:

Televised on Sky? Channel number?

Watching the feed here: http://www.news24.com/Multimedia/Video/SouthAfrica...

Thank you.

[arguti]

TTmonkey said:

Don't. Forget that OP has already denied several times intending to kill anyone. He said in evidence that the gun went off unintentionally. He said he didn't shoot to kill anyone, not Reva and not a burglar. He's contradicted his own evidence that he fired intentionally due to feeling threatened.

In law, he cannot claim self defence because objectively there was no no evidence that he was under direct threat.

He therefore claimed he thought he thought that his life was under threat ie putative self defence. He then contradicted himself under cross examination by saying that the gun went off accidentally which is when the prosecutor repeatedly asked whether he was changing his defence. His lawyer would have been cringing.

His fundamental legal mistake was making statements/affidavits during his bail hearing(s)for many different legal reasons and I suspect he did so against his legal advice because no defence attorney worth anything would have allowed him to do that.

On another note, someone mentioned that for some reason it appears that the post mortem was not part of the official court exhibits and I can find evidence of that either way. if it was omitted that would be a serious deviation from normal procedure.

Also it appears that the police did not use luminol presumably because he admitted to shooting her but same person suggested that there was not much in the way of bloody footprints from the bathroom to downstairs - is this true?

[burwoodman]

arguti said:

TTmonkey said:

Don't. Forget that OP has already denied several times intending to kill anyone. He said in evidence that the gun went off unintentionally. He said he didn't shoot to kill anyone, not Reva and not a burglar. He's contradicted his own evidence that he fired intentionally due to feeling threatened.

In law, he cannot claim self defence because objectively there was no no evidence that he was under direct threat.

He therefore claimed he thought he thought that his life was under threat ie putative self defence. He then contradicted himself under cross examination by saying that the gun went off accidentally which is when the prosecutor repeatedly asked whether he was changing his defence. His lawyer would have been cringing.

His fundamental legal mistake was making statements/affidavits during his bail hearing(s)for many different legal reasons and I suspect he did so against his legal advice because no defence attorney worth anything would have allowed him to do that.

On another note, someone mentioned that for some reason it appears that the post mortem was not part of the official court exhibits and I can find evidence of that either way. if it was omitted that would be a serious deviation from normal procedure.

Also it appears that the police did not use luminol presumably because he admitted to shooting her but same person suggested that there was not much in the way of bloody footprints from the bathroom to downstairs - is this true?

I agree- the police did not use luminol because they are idiots. It is standard procedure and there could have been other 'old blood' present from various sources or new blood in other parts of the house. For all we know an assault could have taken place elsewhere initially and she ran upstairs to evade him.

[Bonefish Blues]

Judge has just made him put his jacket back on!

[Sushi]

arguti said:

not much in the way of bloody footprints?

no feet ?

[Yazza54]

[Lost soul]

So he is selling up his property to cover legal costs

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/osc...

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Lost soul said:

So he is selling up his property to cover legal costs

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/osc...

The en-suite might need some work doing to it

[Lost soul]

KTF said:

Lost soul said:

So he is selling up his property to cover legal costs

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/osc...

The en-suite might need some work doing to it

I wonder what he sold the house for , if it went low or some ghoul paid over the odds to get it

[alfaman]

Lost soul said:

I wonder what he sold the house for , if it went low or some ghoul paid over the odds to get it

Maybe would have some commercial value for either 'shoot-da-wife/ burglar' paint balling venue or 'murder mystery weekend ( Oscar in the bathroom with a glock .....)

[MajorProblem]

KTF said:

The en-suite might need some work doing to it

I asked the estate agent if I could re-do the bathroom and they said it was fine to do so aslong as I didn't change the door as Reeva was dead against it.

(Yes I know its an old 'un)

[Davie_GLA]

Nel is all over the place today.

[Silent1]

What's going on right now, an argument over committing him to a psychiatric unit?

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Silent1 said:

What's going on right now, an argument over committing him to a psychiatric unit?

If the court agrees then I think OPs legal bill just increased a lot.

Interesting how he seems to have turned one of OPs experts against OP.

[Silent1]

KTF said:

Silent1 said:

What's going on right now, an argument over committing him to a psychiatric unit?

If the court agrees then I think OPs legal bill just increased a lot.

Interesting how he seems to have turned one of OPs experts against OP.

I've only just turned on so can you give me a précis of events today?

[KTF]

There is a nice summary and running commentary here:

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Oscar_Pistorius/...

[Foppo]

Apparently he has a fight response in stead of flat response according to his laywer.Due to his disabilities.This trial is more bizarre by the day.

He will get off due to a mental disorder the way the trial is going.He used illegal bullets making sure anybody he shot would have been killed.

You have to feel sorry for Reeva's parents who have to listen to this lying peace of S.

[10 Pence Short]

Interesting development. The court has to decide if the expert witness psychiatrist has accidentally established that OP has a mental condition requiring a State assessment. She also seemed let it slip that OP was possibly guilty of murder, in her opinion.