Oscar Pistorius shoots girlfriend
Discussion
10 Pence Short said:
Interesting development. The court has to decide if the expert witness psychiatrist has accidentally established that OP has a mental condition requiring a State assessment. She also seemed let it slip that OP was possibly guilty of murder, in her opinion.
Apparently he scoffed at the suggestion and felt it had been a good day for him. Which in itself suggests he's mental. Foppo said:
Apparently he has a fight response in stead of flat response according to his laywer.Due to his disabilities.This trial is more bizarre by the day.
He will get off due to a mental disorder the way the trial is going.He used illegal bullets making sure anybody he shot would have been killed.
You have to feel sorry for Reeva's parents who have to listen to this lying peace of S.
No he didn't.He will get off due to a mental disorder the way the trial is going.He used illegal bullets making sure anybody he shot would have been killed.
You have to feel sorry for Reeva's parents who have to listen to this lying peace of S.
ajl.
AJL308 said:
Out of nterest; what classifies something as a 'high-powered' gun, as opposed to any other type?
ajl
Large calibre, (9mm and above for pistols) high gunpowder grain charge in cartridge (7.62mm / 7.65mm rounds - AK47 / AR15 rifles) are considered quite high-powered. Browning even make the 9mm hi-power model of hand gun.ajl
xjsdriver said:
Large calibre, (9mm and above for pistols) high gunpowder grain charge in cartridge (7.62mm / 7.65mm rounds - AK47 / AR15 rifles) are considered quite high-powered. Browning even make the 9mm hi-power model of hand gun.
There is no definton of 'high-powered' or 'large calibre' relating to firearms; it's just fluff used by the media and people who don't really know what they're talking about, in order either to add sensation to a story or to obscure the fact that they don't know what they are talking about.The 9mm Parabellum chambering which OP used is a very common, very mundane round which isn't particularly powerful as pistol rounds go. Nor is 9mm a particularly large calibre bullet - in fact it's generally accepted as being around the lower limit for an acceptable self-defence round.
The full name of the Browning pistol you allude to is the GP35. It stands for 'Grand Puissance' with 35 referring to it's year (1935) of introduction.
Grande Puissance is French for 'High Power', 'Major Power', 'Great Power', or similar, and referred to it's large magazine capacity of thirteen rounds which was unusually large for the time. It wasn't a reference to the ammunition it fired being particularly or unusually powerful. After all, it chambered the common 9x19mm Parrabellum round (same as OP used) which had then been in very wide use for three and a half decades.
ajl.
AJL308 said:
There is no definton of 'high-powered' or 'large calibre' relating to firearms; it's just fluff used by the media and people who don't really know what they're talking about, in order either to add sensation to a story or to obscure the fact that they don't know what they are talking about.
The 9mm Parabellum chambering which OP used is a very common, very mundane round which isn't particularly powerful as pistol rounds go. Nor is 9mm a particularly large calibre bullet - in fact it's generally accepted as being around the lower limit for an acceptable self-defence round.
The full name of the Browning pistol you allude to is the GP35. It stands for 'Grand Puissance' with 35 referring to it's year (1935) of introduction.
Grande Puissance is French for 'High Power', 'Major Power', 'Great Power', or similar, and referred to it's large magazine capacity of thirteen rounds which was unusually large for the time. It wasn't a reference to the ammunition it fired being particularly or unusually powerful. After all, it chambered the common 9x19mm Parrabellum round (same as OP used) which had then been in very wide use for three and a half decades.
ajl.
That seriously wasn't worth four and a half fThe 9mm Parabellum chambering which OP used is a very common, very mundane round which isn't particularly powerful as pistol rounds go. Nor is 9mm a particularly large calibre bullet - in fact it's generally accepted as being around the lower limit for an acceptable self-defence round.
The full name of the Browning pistol you allude to is the GP35. It stands for 'Grand Puissance' with 35 referring to it's year (1935) of introduction.
Grande Puissance is French for 'High Power', 'Major Power', 'Great Power', or similar, and referred to it's large magazine capacity of thirteen rounds which was unusually large for the time. It wasn't a reference to the ammunition it fired being particularly or unusually powerful. After all, it chambered the common 9x19mm Parrabellum round (same as OP used) which had then been in very wide use for three and a half decades.
ajl.
king paragraphs of explanation. Jesus.
AJL308 said:
There is no definton of 'high-powered' or 'large calibre' relating to firearms; it's just fluff used by the media and people who don't really know what they're talking about, in order either to add sensation to a story or to obscure the fact that they don't know what they are talking about.
I was using it a general sweeping term to differentiate from, say, an air rifle. My humble apologies for using a generalisation and not specifying exactly the capability of the firearm in question, I doff my cap to your superior knowledge.My point was, if you have been shot at close range by a handgun in the places she was, bullet type is a secondary and not a primary determinant in survivability.
Vaud said:
AJL308 said:
There is no definton of 'high-powered' or 'large calibre' relating to firearms; it's just fluff used by the media and people who don't really know what they're talking about, in order either to add sensation to a story or to obscure the fact that they don't know what they are talking about.
I was using it a general sweeping term to differentiate from, say, an air rifle. My humble apologies for using a generalisation and not specifying exactly the capability of the firearm in question, I doff my cap to your superior knowledge.My point was, if you have been shot at close range by a handgun in the places she was, bullet type is a secondary and not a primary determinant in survivability.
Can someone with far more knowledge than me please explain todays events.
Why is Nel so desperate for OP to be sectioned for mental evaluation? Surely if after a month he is proven to have a mental illness, he couldn't then be tried for murder.
I am trying to grasp how this benefits the state.
What am I missing, or is Nel relying on psychiatrists to find OP normal?
Why is Nel so desperate for OP to be sectioned for mental evaluation? Surely if after a month he is proven to have a mental illness, he couldn't then be tried for murder.
I am trying to grasp how this benefits the state.
What am I missing, or is Nel relying on psychiatrists to find OP normal?
I understood it as pre-emptive against a potential appeal on mental health grounds if found guilty. And that whilst his current defense might not be reliant on mental defect, he could go ahead and sack his counsel and bring in a new one that presents that argument.
And also I guess he believes there's nothing wrong with him and that will be proven.
And also I guess he believes there's nothing wrong with him and that will be proven.
The way i see it is that until yesterday no-one had any thoughts in their minds about OP being mentally unstable. I wonder if OP himself knew that was coming.
Nel i think doesn't believe a word of it and sees it as a chance to buy some time; perhaps for Roux to regroup and come back with more defence.
It is dragging on a bit mind you. I think the state mentioned that they would have a verdict this week (today) and this just slows everything down that little bit.
Everyone knows he's guilty, he won't avoid prison; it's just how long he will spend in jail i guess.
OP looks very calm and collected throughout mind you, he seems to have stopped breaking down in court. Has he reserved himself to a long stint in jail?
Nel i think doesn't believe a word of it and sees it as a chance to buy some time; perhaps for Roux to regroup and come back with more defence.
It is dragging on a bit mind you. I think the state mentioned that they would have a verdict this week (today) and this just slows everything down that little bit.
Everyone knows he's guilty, he won't avoid prison; it's just how long he will spend in jail i guess.
OP looks very calm and collected throughout mind you, he seems to have stopped breaking down in court. Has he reserved himself to a long stint in jail?
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