Oscar Pistorius shoots girlfriend

Oscar Pistorius shoots girlfriend

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hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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Sentencing hearing under way. Live coverage here:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jun/13...

Slime for the defence laying it on thick, how poor Oscar has been punished enough with the trauma of taking a loved ones life(!) (no really!) and the psychological damage of prison.

Poor Oscar.

TEKNOPUG

18,950 posts

205 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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hornetrider said:
Sentencing hearing under way. Live coverage here:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jun/13...

Slime for the defence laying it on thick, how poor Oscar has been punished enough with the trauma of taking a loved ones life(!) (no really!) and the psychological damage of prison.

Poor Oscar.
It would appear that he found 12 months in prison traumatic, is really sorry for what he has done and promises not to murder anyone else again.


Sounds reasonable...

krunchkin

2,209 posts

141 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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It's incredible isn't it. Rich Mans justice. Like the Harvard rape case. The stuff that gets said about wealthy defendants would sound utterly laughable in the average rape or murder trial

HTP99

22,549 posts

140 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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Why does it take a week to make a decision, this has just dragged on and on?

Bonefish Blues

26,714 posts

223 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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Because due consideration of the submissions made?

FlyingMeeces

9,932 posts

211 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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krunchkin said:
It's incredible isn't it. Rich Mans justice. Like the Harvard rape case. The stuff that gets said about wealthy defendants would sound utterly laughable in the average rape or murder trial
Ex-fking-zactly.

Wonder if his team really think that prison's only rough on him and not anyone else?

Mr Snrub

24,980 posts

227 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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FlyingMeeces said:
krunchkin said:
It's incredible isn't it. Rich Mans justice. Like the Harvard rape case. The stuff that gets said about wealthy defendants would sound utterly laughable in the average rape or murder trial
Ex-fking-zactly.

Wonder if his team really think that prison's only rough on him and not anyone else?
Never understood how a justice system is truly equal when some can afford a better defence

FlyingMeeces

9,932 posts

211 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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Mr Snrub said:
FlyingMeeces said:
krunchkin said:
It's incredible isn't it. Rich Mans justice. Like the Harvard rape case. The stuff that gets said about wealthy defendants would sound utterly laughable in the average rape or murder trial
Ex-fking-zactly.

Wonder if his team really think that prison's only rough on him and not anyone else?
Never understood how a justice system is truly equal when some can afford a better defence
Yeah, tell me about it.

Its always gonna be a little imperfect because, well, humanity - but that basic equality of opportunity, of chance, really needs to be protected somehow. And it really, really isn't.

grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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"His spirit seems broken", according to his lawyers.

He doesn't appear to be dead though. Unlike his victim.


This whole trial has been a farce. His cover story is a complete fabrication, his lawyers have tried every trick, and now they want pity.

Put him in a bathroom. And shoot him.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

237 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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grumbledoak said:
Put him in a bathroom. And shoot him.
Shouldn't we hit him with a bat first?

grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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FurtiveFreddy said:
Shouldn't we hit him with a bat first?
It's a bit literal for my tastes, but given the crime he is in no position to object.

TheSnitch

2,342 posts

154 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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I particularly liked the bit where they said

''he never wants to hold a gun again - he has sold all his weapons''

....as if he had any frigging choice! There was a ripple of disbelief around the court at that. You could see people thinking ''Oh well, that idea we had for his leaving present is buggered, then!''

As for saying ''He's very depressed'', well tough. He's not supposed to be enjoying himself.

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Monday 13th June 2016
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grumbledoak said:
"His spirit seems broken", according to his lawyers.

He doesn't appear to be dead though. Unlike his victim.


This whole trial has been a farce. His cover story is a complete fabrication, his lawyers have tried every trick, and now they want pity.

Put him in a bathroom. And shoot him.
No disagreement here.

Farce from start to finish. His defence right from the outset was that it was an intruder behind the door. The prosecution said within hours of him being arrested that even if that were true then he would still be prosecuted for murder and most probably convicted. He was in no immediate danger yet still fired through the door with the intention of killing the person on the other side.

Just lock the up and let him rot FFS!

Bonefish Blues

26,714 posts

223 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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OTOH justice is about to be served, isn't it?

Oscar has trial. He damns himself via his own testimony. Judge makes an error in law and Oscar walks. State successfully appeals. No lynch mobs required. Job jobbed. smile

FrankAbagnale

1,702 posts

112 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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Did the first session take 14 mins before the first break?

krunchkin

2,209 posts

141 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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One thought I have is - when you watch this farce of a trial. With the idiot judge, the conniving lawyers, the sheer amount of deference, bullst, outright lies and obfuscation. Is SA justice just really st? Or is this representative of what one might expect it we had cameras in a similar UK case? I fking hope not because whatever this stshow is, it isn't the rule of law and justice

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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krunchkin said:
Is SA justice just really st?
Do you really need to ask?

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

prand

5,916 posts

196 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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Still can't work out how Pistorius' housekeeper who was in the house at the time was not called as a witness for either side. His claim: he slept through the whole thing.

Considering neighbours 300m away heard screams "as loud as a plane", and there were gunshots, surely the prosecution could have made something of this?

Pistorius' defence was that he heard noises that he immediately thought "There's a murdering burglar in the house. I'm all alone and vulnerable!" and not, "perhaps it's Reeva, or Frank bumping around, I'll go back to sleep", like most normal people may have. Which says his defence was complete tosh.


All I can think is that being a lowly Malawian, beholden in some way to Pistorius would make him an invalid witness as he would never tell what they heard/saw. I guess in this situation, like the wall of silence in Manchester after the ganglnd killings for instance, there is nothing you can do.





TheSnitch

2,342 posts

154 months

Tuesday 14th June 2016
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For anyone who didn't catch it live, I recommend watching the evidence of Reeva's father. Very moving indeed.