Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 2
Discussion
turbobloke said:
Climate models fail yet again...say McKitrick and Vogelsang (2014).
"When we allow for a late-1970s step change in each radiosonde series (coinciding with a known natural event i.e. the Pacific Climate Shift) all three assign most of the post-1958 increase in both the LT and MT to the step change, and the trend slopes become essentially zero."
The clarifications in brackets are mine but mentioned elsewhere in the article, the rest is co-author McKitrick. LT is lower troposphere etc.
http://climateaudit.org/2014/07/24/new-paper-by-mc...
There can't be much room left on the AGW coffin for more nails.
Except for the Independent on Sunday reporting that the blackberry season is weeks early - conclusive proof it is suggested. Independent on Sunday rant"When we allow for a late-1970s step change in each radiosonde series (coinciding with a known natural event i.e. the Pacific Climate Shift) all three assign most of the post-1958 increase in both the LT and MT to the step change, and the trend slopes become essentially zero."
The clarifications in brackets are mine but mentioned elsewhere in the article, the rest is co-author McKitrick. LT is lower troposphere etc.
http://climateaudit.org/2014/07/24/new-paper-by-mc...
There can't be much room left on the AGW coffin for more nails.
motco said:
turbobloke said:
Climate models fail yet again...say McKitrick and Vogelsang (2014).
"When we allow for a late-1970s step change in each radiosonde series (coinciding with a known natural event i.e. the Pacific Climate Shift) all three assign most of the post-1958 increase in both the LT and MT to the step change, and the trend slopes become essentially zero."
The clarifications in brackets are mine but mentioned elsewhere in the article, the rest is co-author McKitrick. LT is lower troposphere etc.
http://climateaudit.org/2014/07/24/new-paper-by-mc...
There can't be much room left on the AGW coffin for more nails.
Except for the Independent on Sunday reporting that the blackberry season is weeks early - conclusive proof it is suggested. Independent on Sunday rant"When we allow for a late-1970s step change in each radiosonde series (coinciding with a known natural event i.e. the Pacific Climate Shift) all three assign most of the post-1958 increase in both the LT and MT to the step change, and the trend slopes become essentially zero."
The clarifications in brackets are mine but mentioned elsewhere in the article, the rest is co-author McKitrick. LT is lower troposphere etc.
http://climateaudit.org/2014/07/24/new-paper-by-mc...
There can't be much room left on the AGW coffin for more nails.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/aug/20/foodandd...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/legacy/natureuk/2011/06...
Naturally, this year is worse than previously thought. Or better if you like blackberries early
Pesty said:
Going green has consequences...
Article linked by Pesty said:
So where will New England be getting its electricity? Almost daily the newspapers are filled with stories about how the region is “going green” and about to enter the delightful world of “clean energy.” It’s sheer fantasy. No one has the slightest notion of what it would entail. You would have to cover half of the Green Mountains with windmills to recover the power lost at Vermont Yankee and even then it would only work when the wind is blowing.
My emphasis.motco said:
Except for the Independent on Sunday reporting that the blackberry season is weeks early - conclusive proof it is suggested. Independent on Sunday rant
Article said:
The blackberry season can span July to November, and early ripening is not entirely uncommon, but this year's crop is "unusual", says the Woodland Trust's Dr Kate Lewthwaite.
"It is perhaps more common than people might realise to see blackberries in July, but what is unusual is that we have had a far wider abundance across the UK this year than last year," she said.
Conclusive proof indeed "It is perhaps more common than people might realise to see blackberries in July, but what is unusual is that we have had a far wider abundance across the UK this year than last year," she said.
Believers like to make a meal of records, here's another - antarctic sea ice extent.
http://sunshinehours.wordpress.com/2014/07/25/anta...
http://sunshinehours.wordpress.com/2014/07/25/anta...
Guam said:
Its okay we are saved Briggsy has picked up on the Eugenicists solution to Global wombling
http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=13146
The paper referred to got through peer review?http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=13146
turbobloke said:
Guam said:
Its okay we are saved Briggsy has picked up on the Eugenicists solution to Global wombling
http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=13146
The paper referred to got through peer review?http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=13146
The sun is the main threat to our existence but not the planet.
Why are we not "doing something"?
http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2014/07/26...
The link to the main article is worth reading first.
Why are we not "doing something"?
http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2014/07/26...
The link to the main article is worth reading first.
funny thing I heard on BBC R2 this morning in a news cast. They were talking about the dinosaurs and how it all might have been pure bad luck that the asteroid hit when it did. But they also cited volcanic eruptions and rising sea levels as causes for wiping out the dinosaurs.
Probably being a tin foil hatter here but I am guessing they would really like people to make the link to todays not-so-rising sea levels and certain extinction.
Probably being a tin foil hatter here but I am guessing they would really like people to make the link to todays not-so-rising sea levels and certain extinction.
Hysterical politically orchestrated over-reaction when Prof Pielke Jr provides a reality check:
Q and A with Prof Pielke on believer apoplexy from his article Disasters Cost More Than Ever But Not Because of Climate Change
Q and A with Prof Pielke on believer apoplexy from his article Disasters Cost More Than Ever But Not Because of Climate Change
Beati Dogu said:
The greenies have never forgiven the dinosaurs for providing all those fossil fuels. 
Using fossil fuels is the ultimate form of recycling. We are simply returning the natural gasses that those nasty climate altering plants removed from the earth's atmosphere
Edited by Moonhawk on Tuesday 29th July 10:25
You have to wonder if Prof P knew the score and used the one opportunity he would get to provide a reality check on 538 - he has excellent creds and several publishing outlets after all - knowing also that there would be calls for him to be silenced which reveal true believers for the totalitarians they are. If I read the Q&A correctly, that was his first (and last) piece, and he had intended not to push the climate side of his work...but then did just that, right at the outset. Getting such an airing for anything other than rigid agwism can't be easy.
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