Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 2
Discussion
I was reading on skeptical science that the tree data divergence isn't a problem because it's perfect up to 1960 and that's all that matters, and any problem after that is clearly down to other problems caused by human activity. This is all just assertions, they don't actually even have a coherent theory! According to them it just doesn't matter. Fills you with confidence this 'science' stuff doesn't it!
Mr GrimNasty said:
I was reading on skeptical science that the tree data divergence isn't a problem because it's perfect up to 1960 and that's all that matters, and any problem after that is clearly down to other problems caused by human activity. This is all just assertions, they don't actually even have a coherent theory! According to them it just doesn't matter. Fills you with confidence this 'science' stuff doesn't it!
Yep, it's called Post Normal Science. Welcome to the world of the f
kwit climate scientist. dickymint said:
IIRC it was lefty Lord Donoughue who described Miliband's post-marxist reaction to climate change as like a drowning man grasping at a lifebelt. It looks like Wallace Gump just stuck out another flailing arm.Billions won’t satisfy warmists and the claim last week that 2014 is set to be 'the hottest year ever' is a load of nonsense
Led by the BBC, the usual media suspects were quick to trumpet last week’s claims by the Met Office and the World Meteorological Organisation that 2014 is set to be “the hottest year ever”. It’s funny that the rest of us hadn’t noticed; least of all those citizens of North America and Russia whose lives were lately disrupted by record snowfalls. It is true that the temperature records compiled by the avid warmists of the Met Office and the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (the one formerly run by climate activist James Hansen) have managed to show this year squeaking just ahead of 2010 as “the hottest year since records began”. But the much more comprehensive and reliable satellite records agree that 2014 is way down the list, with six of the past 16 years ahead of it.
The reason for this excitement just now, even before the final 2014 data are in, is that it is timed to coincide with yet another two-week UN climate conference in Lima, where thousands of officials and activists are gathered to whip up support for next year’s planned “universal climate treaty” in Paris.
What worries them more than anything is the unavoidable evidence that global temperatures have shown no significant rise for 18 years, making ever more nonsense of all those scary computer model predictions relied on by the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. But so carried away are they by their quasi-religious belief system that, when it was again proposed in Lima that richer nations should pay poor countries $100 billion a year to protect them from runaway global warming, the UN’s chief spokesman, Christiana Figueres, dismissed this as “a very, very small sum”. What is needed to decarbonise the global economy, she said, is “$90 trillion over the next 15 years”. It makes the £1.3 trillion we Brits are committed by the Climate Change Act to pay to halt global warming within 36 years look like chicken feed.
Christopher Booker, The Telegraph, 06 December 2014
$90tn
Led by the BBC, the usual media suspects were quick to trumpet last week’s claims by the Met Office and the World Meteorological Organisation that 2014 is set to be “the hottest year ever”. It’s funny that the rest of us hadn’t noticed; least of all those citizens of North America and Russia whose lives were lately disrupted by record snowfalls. It is true that the temperature records compiled by the avid warmists of the Met Office and the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (the one formerly run by climate activist James Hansen) have managed to show this year squeaking just ahead of 2010 as “the hottest year since records began”. But the much more comprehensive and reliable satellite records agree that 2014 is way down the list, with six of the past 16 years ahead of it.
The reason for this excitement just now, even before the final 2014 data are in, is that it is timed to coincide with yet another two-week UN climate conference in Lima, where thousands of officials and activists are gathered to whip up support for next year’s planned “universal climate treaty” in Paris.
What worries them more than anything is the unavoidable evidence that global temperatures have shown no significant rise for 18 years, making ever more nonsense of all those scary computer model predictions relied on by the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. But so carried away are they by their quasi-religious belief system that, when it was again proposed in Lima that richer nations should pay poor countries $100 billion a year to protect them from runaway global warming, the UN’s chief spokesman, Christiana Figueres, dismissed this as “a very, very small sum”. What is needed to decarbonise the global economy, she said, is “$90 trillion over the next 15 years”. It makes the £1.3 trillion we Brits are committed by the Climate Change Act to pay to halt global warming within 36 years look like chicken feed.
Christopher Booker, The Telegraph, 06 December 2014
$90tn
dickymint said:
BBC seem to be gutted that they sent their doomongers out to the Philippines and nobody has died yet!!!
That's because the Philippines has NEVER had typhoons before 'Climate Change'!FFS - it's just a tiny bit of wind... (the UK had far worse last year) where a lot of people live in flimsy wooden shacks.
Still - a few billion from the CC Fund will make everything better, won't it?
The BBC reporter obviously got a bking for not being climategeddon enough. The 10 o'clock news report had a remarkable different tone to earlier ones.
The people have apparently become worried that such "mega-storms" will become yearly instead of once a century!
It's so bad, it's funny.
king for not being climategeddon enough. The 10 o'clock news report had a remarkable different tone to earlier ones.The people have apparently become worried that such "mega-storms" will become yearly instead of once a century!
It's so bad, it's funny.
Mr GrimNasty said:
The BBC reporter obviously got a bking for not being climategeddon enough. The 10 o'clock news report had a remarkable different tone to earlier ones.
The people have apparently become worried that such "mega-storms" will become yearly instead of once a century!
It's so bad, it's funny.
But not worried purely because of what they've been lied to about, naturally.king for not being climategeddon enough. The 10 o'clock news report had a remarkable different tone to earlier ones.The people have apparently become worried that such "mega-storms" will become yearly instead of once a century!
It's so bad, it's funny.
dickymint said:
BBC now resorting to interviews in front of a beached ship............from last year 
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