Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 2
Discussion
Piece here about the Lima shindig.
Largest carbon footprint for a UN conference, ever. Held in temporary structures just as summer kicks in, with limited cooling. Good way to get 11,000 delegates to agree on anything?
http://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2014/...
Largest carbon footprint for a UN conference, ever. Held in temporary structures just as summer kicks in, with limited cooling. Good way to get 11,000 delegates to agree on anything?
http://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2014/...
mybrainhurts said:
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2014/12/9/t...
This ought to make you feel warm all over...the House of Lords Science and Technology Committee taking evidence from warmists and asking difficult questions.
The warmistas did not like it up 'em.
Start at 10.58.
What a condescending, arrogant, smug individual Kevin Anderson is. If that is the face of the climate lobby, heaven help us. I had hoped they would absolutely lay into his responses, a golden opportunity missed.This ought to make you feel warm all over...the House of Lords Science and Technology Committee taking evidence from warmists and asking difficult questions.
The warmistas did not like it up 'em.
Start at 10.58.
The slouching, pimp daddy looking person, proffering lazy almost disinterested answers to questions, he would not look out of place in 1970's detective series.
The Don of Croy said:
Piece here about the Lima shindig.
Largest carbon footprint for a UN conference, ever. Held in temporary structures just as summer kicks in, with limited cooling. Good way to get 11,000 delegates to agree on anything?
http://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2014/...
Snip: Largest carbon footprint for a UN conference, ever. Held in temporary structures just as summer kicks in, with limited cooling. Good way to get 11,000 delegates to agree on anything?
http://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2014/...
Standing in the midday sun here can get downright uncomfortable, but the Lima sun is not reliable. That's one reason solar panels were not used.
For electricity, the talks are relying exclusively on diesel generators.
Organizers had planned to draw power from Peru's grid, which is about 52 percent fed by non-polluting hydroelectric power. "We worked to upgrade transformers and generators but for some reason it didn't work," said Alvarez.
Hmm. Lima might just work out for the warmists if everyone ends up agreeing to a deal to escape horrendous temporary accommodation heat exhaustion.
Could it be intentional?
Remember that James Hansen and friends kicked off the major drive for them when they had an opportunity to demonstrate how "hot" the world was becoming presenting to the US "lawmakers" back in the '80s (1988?) in Washington.
As I heard it it was an unusually hot day and the meeting chamber's aircon was "not working". Someone made sure all the windows were closed. A hot day made hotter and a perfect background to a presentation that was intended to scare people into expecting almost instant Global Combustion.
Such tactics have worked ever since. Lima could just be a long planned repeat show.
Could it be intentional?
Remember that James Hansen and friends kicked off the major drive for them when they had an opportunity to demonstrate how "hot" the world was becoming presenting to the US "lawmakers" back in the '80s (1988?) in Washington.
As I heard it it was an unusually hot day and the meeting chamber's aircon was "not working". Someone made sure all the windows were closed. A hot day made hotter and a perfect background to a presentation that was intended to scare people into expecting almost instant Global Combustion.
Such tactics have worked ever since. Lima could just be a long planned repeat show.
North America To Flood The World With Cheap & Abundant Fossil Fuels
North America, once a sponge that sucked in a significant portion of the world’s oil, will instead be supplying the world with oil and other liquid hydrocarbons by the end of this decade, according to ExxonMobil’s annual long-term energy forecast. In a forecast that might make economists happy but environmentalists fret, Exxon’s two chief products, oil and natural gas, will be abundant and affordable enough to meet the rising demand for energy in the developing world as the global middle class swells to 5 billion from 2 billion and buys energy-hungry conveniences such as cars and air conditioners.
Jonathan Fahey, Associated Press, 09 December 2014
Oil Revolution Rocks Green Blob
The world’s largest oil company sees emissions in the developing world surging 50 percent, a forecast that suggests the diplomatic push to draft an accord to curb global warming stands will fall short. Even as the most advanced economies cut energy use by almost one tenth through 2040 and add hundreds of millions of fuel-efficient vehicles, booming growth in places like India, South Africa and Thailand will boost demand for fuels 36 percent, the Texas-based company said in its annual outlook. Emissions will surge as an expanding middle class in poorer nations demands electricity, schools and hospitals.
Joe Carroll, Bloomberg, 10 December 2014
North America, once a sponge that sucked in a significant portion of the world’s oil, will instead be supplying the world with oil and other liquid hydrocarbons by the end of this decade, according to ExxonMobil’s annual long-term energy forecast. In a forecast that might make economists happy but environmentalists fret, Exxon’s two chief products, oil and natural gas, will be abundant and affordable enough to meet the rising demand for energy in the developing world as the global middle class swells to 5 billion from 2 billion and buys energy-hungry conveniences such as cars and air conditioners.
Jonathan Fahey, Associated Press, 09 December 2014
Oil Revolution Rocks Green Blob
The world’s largest oil company sees emissions in the developing world surging 50 percent, a forecast that suggests the diplomatic push to draft an accord to curb global warming stands will fall short. Even as the most advanced economies cut energy use by almost one tenth through 2040 and add hundreds of millions of fuel-efficient vehicles, booming growth in places like India, South Africa and Thailand will boost demand for fuels 36 percent, the Texas-based company said in its annual outlook. Emissions will surge as an expanding middle class in poorer nations demands electricity, schools and hospitals.
Joe Carroll, Bloomberg, 10 December 2014
Greenpeace apologise for stunt at world famous Nazca lines:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3042...
How to upset their Peruvian hosts.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3042...
How to upset their Peruvian hosts.
Beati Dogu said:
Greenpeace apologise for stunt at world famous Nazca lines:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3042...
How to upset their Peruvian hosts.
"The Nazca people disappeared because of climate change"...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3042...
How to upset their Peruvian hosts.
These people are so far into this delusion its probably a mental illness now.
Getragdogleg said:
"The Nazca people disappeared because of climate change"...
These people are so far into this delusion its probably a mental illness now.
I have grown to fThese people are so far into this delusion its probably a mental illness now.
king hate them!Just listened to an ad on the Discovery Channel from the WWF, 'Please send us £3 per month and you can stop the ice melting so all of the poor little Polar Bears can survive'
How the hell is my £3 per month going to help stop the ice melting - that's even if they're telling the truth!
vournikas said:
chris watton said:
How the hell is my £3 per month going to help stop the ice melting
The same way your £400 / year can help turn the earth's temperatures down purely by a twist of the Global CO2 knob What an unsung hero.
AreOut said:
"They say the green group entered a strictly prohibited area and left footprints. The government is asking for the identities of those involved and threatening prosecution and six years in prison for the offenders."
that would serve them right
That is a terrific irony: environmentalists damaging the environment!that would serve them right
Bill Blocks Obama
An “omnibus” spending bill to fund the federal government through October 2015 throws up roadblocks for the Obama administration’s climate agenda, namely by blocking taxpayer dollars from going to the United Nations global warming fund. The House’s $1.1 trillion spending bill will prevent President Obama from fulfilling his pledge to give $3 billion to the UN’s Green Climate Fund.
Michael Bastasch, The Daily Caller, 10 December 2014
ETA more on this:
President Obama’s pledge to give unelected bureaucrats at the U.N. $3 billion for climate change initiatives is an unfortunate decision to not listen to voters in this most recent election cycle. His climate change spending priorities, estimated to be $120 billion since the beginning of his Administration, were on the ballot, and Americans spoke. The President’s climate change agenda has only siphoned precious taxpayer dollars away from the real problems facing the American people.
Senator James Inhofe, The Daily Caller, 10 December 2014
An “omnibus” spending bill to fund the federal government through October 2015 throws up roadblocks for the Obama administration’s climate agenda, namely by blocking taxpayer dollars from going to the United Nations global warming fund. The House’s $1.1 trillion spending bill will prevent President Obama from fulfilling his pledge to give $3 billion to the UN’s Green Climate Fund.
Michael Bastasch, The Daily Caller, 10 December 2014
ETA more on this:
President Obama’s pledge to give unelected bureaucrats at the U.N. $3 billion for climate change initiatives is an unfortunate decision to not listen to voters in this most recent election cycle. His climate change spending priorities, estimated to be $120 billion since the beginning of his Administration, were on the ballot, and Americans spoke. The President’s climate change agenda has only siphoned precious taxpayer dollars away from the real problems facing the American people.
Senator James Inhofe, The Daily Caller, 10 December 2014
Edited by turbobloke on Thursday 11th December 17:25
Antarctic sea ice levels at record (high) levels
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/oct/09...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-2982...
Yet more 'climate chaos' or perhaps a mistake in the measurement of the sea ice?
Not sure that this was predicted by the 'models'
Now, was there not some boat trapped there some time ago?
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/oct/09...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-2982...
Yet more 'climate chaos' or perhaps a mistake in the measurement of the sea ice?
Not sure that this was predicted by the 'models'
Now, was there not some boat trapped there some time ago?
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