North Korea - how serious should we take them?

North Korea - how serious should we take them?

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hidetheelephants

24,289 posts

193 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Petrus1983 said:
The general consensus is to laugh at them and post more silly pictures - the reality (unbelievably) is they've just humiliated an Asian/US powerhouse a bunch of overpaid weasels who work for a studio that Sony bought when they had more money than sense. Whilst I don't applaud them it's quite impressive no matter what the PR says.
Not so impressive really; perhaps the lesson here is that multinational corporations should stick to what they know.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Efbe said:
much more likely it was password guessing; running a handful of passwords over many usernames/e-mail addresses.

it's not hacking, and you could do it from a spectrum.
Absolute nonsense.
Whilst the info that has come out thus far has shown Sony's internal security policies weren't fantastic after they dumped their third party team, this was far from "password guessing".

As others have suggested, the Norks are widely known to have a vast and highly skilled cyber warfare team, who are capable of more than "password guessing".

tangerine_sedge

4,766 posts

218 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Nyphur said:
Efbe said:
much more likely it was password guessing; running a handful of passwords over many usernames/e-mail addresses.

it's not hacking, and you could do it from a spectrum.
Absolute nonsense.
Whilst the info that has come out thus far has shown Sony's internal security policies weren't fantastic after they dumped their third party team, this was far from "password guessing".

As others have suggested, the Norks are widely known to have a vast and highly skilled cyber warfare team, who are capable of more than "password guessing".
I've not been following the details very closely, but most of the details coming out seem to indicate that the hackers have had access to file repositories/sharepoint sites etc. I'm not sure that they 've penetrated much further than a normal employee might be able to.

allergictocheese

1,290 posts

113 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Halmyre said:
Someone on the radio hinted yesterday that Sony might (I said might) be glad to have it pulled because it's not been getting good reviews - as they said "we're not talking Citizen Kane here". What it will do is bump up interest in getting hold of the film so DVD sales should be sprightly. Ker-ching.

Much as that is an interesting idea, I don't think Sony would go to such lengths only to end up appearing to be a bunch of fraidy-cats.
I don't think, having spent millions of dollars on production, that a film company would be happy to entirely shelve a film simply because the reviews weren't likely to be great. Yes, some films go straight to DVD and others are canned at various stages, but to totally wipe out any reasonable chance of a return on a mainstream film that has cost you millions of dollars doesn't seem commercially sensible.

If you knew that releasing the film would also lead to the release of information that could sink your company or various important characters within it, that might tempt you to run a cost risk analysis though...

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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tangerine_sedge said:
I've not been following the details very closely, but most of the details coming out seem to indicate that the hackers have had access to file repositories/sharepoint sites etc. I'm not sure that they 've penetrated much further than a normal employee might be able to.
It is fairly obvious that you haven't been following the details very closely.
They have accessed far more than "SharePoint sites"...

Cobnapint

8,627 posts

151 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Nyphur said:
As others have suggested, the Norks are widely known to have a vast and highly skilled cyber warfare team, who are capable of more than "password guessing".
Looks like the FBI think so too. They've just formally declared NK as the prime suspect after comparing certain aspects of the hack with previous Nork attacks against other institutions.

Time to hit back. Show the film, protect Sony, and send KJU a copy on VHS.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Cobnapint said:
Nyphur said:
As others have suggested, the Norks are widely known to have a vast and highly skilled cyber warfare team, who are capable of more than "password guessing".
Looks like the FBI think so too. They've just formally declared NK as the prime suspect after comparing certain aspects of the hack with previous Nork attacks against other institutions.

Time to hit back. Show the film, protect Sony, and send KJU a copy on VHS.
And a crate of dodgy pies....

eldar

21,736 posts

196 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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mybrainhurts said:
And a crate of dodgy pies....
Show him they mean business!



Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Cobnapint said:
Nyphur said:
As others have suggested, the Norks are widely known to have a vast and highly skilled cyber warfare team, who are capable of more than "password guessing".
Looks like the FBI think so too. They've just formally declared NK as the prime suspect after comparing certain aspects of the hack with previous Nork attacks against other institutions.

Time to hit back. Show the film, protect Sony, and send KJU a copy on VHS.
"send KJU a copy on VHS" - Brilliant! hehe

Wacky Racer

38,154 posts

247 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Jimbeaux said:
"send KJU a copy on VHS" - Brilliant! hehe
I think he means Betamax.......laugh

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Wacky Racer said:
Jimbeaux said:
"send KJU a copy on VHS" - Brilliant! hehe
I think he means Betamax.......laugh
Even better, of course. biggrin

J4CKO

41,530 posts

200 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Just seem like a massive contrivance, even if true it seems to good to be true, actual controversy, The President commenting on it and its just another st Seth Rogen film.

It just seem like the next level of Viral to me.

Halmyre

11,190 posts

139 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Wacky Racer said:
Jimbeaux said:
"send KJU a copy on VHS" - Brilliant! hehe
I think he means Betamax.......laugh
Not Super 8?

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Halmyre said:
Wacky Racer said:
Jimbeaux said:
"send KJU a copy on VHS" - Brilliant! hehe
I think he means Betamax.......laugh
Not Super 8?
No! I just saw a few of those projectors at a vintage shop, they are taking on nostalgic $value$. Let's stop at Betamax, the NKs deserve no better. biggrin

MartG

20,673 posts

204 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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Jimbeaux said:
Wacky Racer said:
Jimbeaux said:
"send KJU a copy on VHS" - Brilliant! hehe
I think he means Betamax.......laugh
Even better, of course. biggrin
The reality of the comment.......

So Kim knows.

irocfan

40,421 posts

190 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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apparently it has gone a little further - the latest demand is not just to never show it but to destroy EVERY copy.... wonder if SONY will cave again?

MartG

20,673 posts

204 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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FourWheelDrift

88,504 posts

284 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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irocfan said:
apparently it has gone a little further - the latest demand is not just to never show it but to destroy EVERY copy....
Every copy? But they all look the same we'll have to destroy everyone in North Korea who looks like Kim.

KTF

9,804 posts

150 months

Sunday 21st December 2014
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I thought that NK are now saying that this is nothing to do with them?