North Korea - how serious should we take them?

North Korea - how serious should we take them?

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Laurel Green

30,782 posts

233 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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Takes head-hunting to a whole new level, me thinks.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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Kimmy baby's been hitting the pies with extra zeal, I see. How very Sumo...hehe

Bluedot

3,596 posts

108 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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FourWheelDrift

88,557 posts

285 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
Kimmy baby's been hitting the pies with extra zeal, I see. How very Sumo...hehe

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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FourWheelDrift said:
mybrainhurts said:
Kimmy baby's been hitting the pies with extra zeal, I see. How very Sumo...hehe
Can you get Diane Abbott on that? They'd make a handsome couple....hehe

Starfighter

4,930 posts

179 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
Can you get Diane Abbott on that? They'd make a handsome couple....hehe
hurl

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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Starfighter said:
mybrainhurts said:
Can you get Diane Abbott on that? They'd make a handsome couple....hehe
hurl
I'll give you that...hehe

gruffalo

7,529 posts

227 months

Thursday 3rd March 2016
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-35713977

Is it time to try another tactic rather than just adding more pointless sanctions?

Options within International Law are limited but for the sake of the North Koreans maybe it is time for him the Kim family to come to an end here and now by some means.



mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Thursday 3rd March 2016
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Cobnapint

8,636 posts

152 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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So now he's gone into extra nuclear pre-emptive bullst attack mode, in response to the new sanctions (quite how you can impose heavier sanctions on top of existing sanctions on a stagnant nation that doesn't trade with, communicate with or tolerate the rest of the world is beyond me, but that's another story).

Trouble is the day is fast approaching when he'll be able to back up his rhetoric. He's got the missiles, and he'll soon have the banger to araldite on the end of it.

Sanctions are already not enough. He's not listening, and you can only feel sorry for the poor NK rep at the UN who has to go and communicate the results back to Pyongyang. Any sign of 'calm it down a bit, fatty' from him and he'll find himself down-range of some fully loaded anti-aircraft guns.

Adam Ansel

695 posts

107 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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You can see why North Korea would develop a nuclear deterrent:


AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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Cobnapint said:
(quite how you can impose heavier sanctions on top of existing sanctions on a stagnant nation that doesn't trade with, communicate with or tolerate the rest of the world is beyond me, but that's another story).
yes

reading some news I've got impression certain folks believe the sanctions will physically stop the missiles...

FourWheelDrift

88,557 posts

285 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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Maybe they are going to send a very sternly written letter asking him not to play with the nuclear toys and if he doesn't stop they'll send another.

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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Yeah, excessive reading must wear him out at some point.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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Adam Ansel said:
You can see why North Korea would develop a nuclear deterrent:

The irony in the first one, Jabba the Kim does not know it is over.

Cobnapint

8,636 posts

152 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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Adam Ansel said:
You can see why North Korea would develop a nuclear deterrent:

Absolutely. And then they can be added to your list of hyper corrupt, murderous, dictatorships.

SeeFive

8,280 posts

234 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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So, let's just think for a moment.

What would the outcome be tomorrow morning of a limited, but potentially viewed as heavy handed tactical nuclear (rather than conventional) first strike on his gaff and infrastructure offices to prevent him being a silly little boy with his new toys?

Serious question, because in some minds, it may be a good idea to nip it in the bud, but I am not so sure. Where would China sit on that? And what about Putin? And what about the amount of graffiti and destroyed public monuments by lefties globally etc.

Big questions indeed... I appreciate there are no answers, just gathering notions in response. But could it just establish a precedent for consequences against such a despot's similar activities?

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Friday 4th March 2016
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I think it would be a stupid move to pre empt this numpty. But what if the west had info he was certainly going to press the big red button, the world would still see any pre emptive as wrong and the evidence made up. Not a choice I would like infant of me.

Efbe

9,251 posts

167 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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SeeFive said:
So, let's just think for a moment.

What would the outcome be tomorrow morning of a limited, but potentially viewed as heavy handed tactical nuclear (rather than conventional) first strike on his gaff and infrastructure offices to prevent him being a silly little boy with his new toys?

Serious question, because in some minds, it may be a good idea to nip it in the bud, but I am not so sure. Where would China sit on that? And what about Putin? And what about the amount of graffiti and destroyed public monuments by lefties globally etc.

Big questions indeed... I appreciate there are no answers, just gathering notions in response. But could it just establish a precedent for consequences against such a despot's similar activities?
25 million refugees
...or 5 million refugees (complete guess)escaping the irradiated areas, then $trillions to bring North korea out of poverty/starvation.

All this without any possibility of oil revenues coming out of it.


hidetheelephants

24,475 posts

194 months

Monday 7th March 2016
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Efbe said:
SeeFive said:
So, let's just think for a moment.

What would the outcome be tomorrow morning of a limited, but potentially viewed as heavy handed tactical nuclear (rather than conventional) first strike on his gaff and infrastructure offices to prevent him being a silly little boy with his new toys?

Serious question, because in some minds, it may be a good idea to nip it in the bud, but I am not so sure. Where would China sit on that? And what about Putin? And what about the amount of graffiti and destroyed public monuments by lefties globally etc.

Big questions indeed... I appreciate there are no answers, just gathering notions in response. But could it just establish a precedent for consequences against such a despot's similar activities?
25 million refugees
...or 5 million refugees (complete guess)escaping the irradiated areas, then $trillions to bring North korea out of poverty/starvation.

All this without any possibility of oil revenues coming out of it.
There may well be plenty of oil in the NK sector of the Yellow Sea, it's just no-one has looked. There's certainly economically recoverable oil elsewhere in the Yellow Sea, it's really shallow so the technical risks and costs are low.