North Korea - how serious should we take them?
Discussion
AreOut said:
you'll find your answer here
https://books.google.me/books?id=NZhENgENhEQC&...
however I don't think it would activate while on the ground
Boring answer; it depends if the safety pins are in.https://books.google.me/books?id=NZhENgENhEQC&...
however I don't think it would activate while on the ground
FourWheelDrift said:
230TE said:
mybrainhurts said:
Kim Jong fatboy oversees that personally...
Bet the buggers have a Tiger Moth stashed away somewhere, too.
Oh no, not only do we have piston heads ramping up the pressure we now have the south.
North Korea nuclear test: South would reduce Pyongyang 'to ashes' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37331852
North Korea nuclear test: South would reduce Pyongyang 'to ashes' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37331852
So despite all the statements that South Korea and the West would not accept a nuclear armed NK - here we are - with a nuclear armed NK.
OK, US experts say they are 5, 6, 7 years away from being able to deliver them. But that doesn't matter - in time, they WILL be able to deliver them.
That'll leave us in a situation where we'll have gone from having to tolerate a belligerent gobsh*te who liked making threats and throwing his weight around BEFORE having nuclear weapons, to having one that does all that and is able to walk the walk too.
Not only will this put an instant end to all our pie and hair doo jokes, but it will have almost certain catastrophic consequences for anybody who even slightly upsets the guy.
You could argue that he wouldn't do it because of the MAD theory. But he's mad in the first place, so why let the opportunity materialise in the first place.
He's laughing at the sanctions, so there is only one solution left now, the threat of a full on preemptive strike against all of his nuclear facilities, and further strikes against him and his military should he not get the message.
OK, US experts say they are 5, 6, 7 years away from being able to deliver them. But that doesn't matter - in time, they WILL be able to deliver them.
That'll leave us in a situation where we'll have gone from having to tolerate a belligerent gobsh*te who liked making threats and throwing his weight around BEFORE having nuclear weapons, to having one that does all that and is able to walk the walk too.
Not only will this put an instant end to all our pie and hair doo jokes, but it will have almost certain catastrophic consequences for anybody who even slightly upsets the guy.
You could argue that he wouldn't do it because of the MAD theory. But he's mad in the first place, so why let the opportunity materialise in the first place.
He's laughing at the sanctions, so there is only one solution left now, the threat of a full on preemptive strike against all of his nuclear facilities, and further strikes against him and his military should he not get the message.
Cobnapint said:
So despite all the statements that South Korea and the West would not accept a nuclear armed NK - here we are - with a nuclear armed NK.
OK, US experts say they are 5, 6, 7 years away from being able to deliver them. But that doesn't matter - in time, they WILL be able to deliver them.
That'll leave us in a situation where we'll have gone from having to tolerate a belligerent gobsh*te who liked making threats and throwing his weight around BEFORE having nuclear weapons, to having one that does all that and is able to walk the walk too.
This is another reason why the Iraq War was bullsOK, US experts say they are 5, 6, 7 years away from being able to deliver them. But that doesn't matter - in time, they WILL be able to deliver them.
That'll leave us in a situation where we'll have gone from having to tolerate a belligerent gobsh*te who liked making threats and throwing his weight around BEFORE having nuclear weapons, to having one that does all that and is able to walk the walk too.
t- worried that Saddam might have WMD stashed away somewhere so well that Hans Blix couldn't find it, meanwhile NK is openly developing nukes and noone does fkall.What it does display to the world is that you really need nukes if you want to prevent invasion.
Mr Snrub said:
FourWheelDrift said:
230TE said:
mybrainhurts said:
Kim Jong fatboy oversees that personally...
Bet the buggers have a Tiger Moth stashed away somewhere, too.
Cobnapint said:
So despite all the statements that South Korea and the West would not accept a nuclear armed NK - here we are - with a nuclear armed NK.
OK, US experts say they are 5, 6, 7 years away from being able to deliver them. But that doesn't matter - in time, they WILL be able to deliver them.
That'll leave us in a situation where we'll have gone from having to tolerate a belligerent gobsh*te who liked making threats and throwing his weight around BEFORE having nuclear weapons, to having one that does all that and is able to walk the walk too.
Not only will this put an instant end to all our pie and hair doo jokes, but it will have almost certain catastrophic consequences for anybody who even slightly upsets the guy.
You could argue that he wouldn't do it because of the MAD theory. But he's mad in the first place, so why let the opportunity materialise in the first place.
He's laughing at the sanctions, so there is only one solution left now, the threat of a full on preemptive strike against all of his nuclear facilities, and further strikes against him and his military should he not get the message.
Maybe this is why the US are moving back into Cheyenne Mountain, after deactivating it 10 years agoOK, US experts say they are 5, 6, 7 years away from being able to deliver them. But that doesn't matter - in time, they WILL be able to deliver them.
That'll leave us in a situation where we'll have gone from having to tolerate a belligerent gobsh*te who liked making threats and throwing his weight around BEFORE having nuclear weapons, to having one that does all that and is able to walk the walk too.
Not only will this put an instant end to all our pie and hair doo jokes, but it will have almost certain catastrophic consequences for anybody who even slightly upsets the guy.
You could argue that he wouldn't do it because of the MAD theory. But he's mad in the first place, so why let the opportunity materialise in the first place.
He's laughing at the sanctions, so there is only one solution left now, the threat of a full on preemptive strike against all of his nuclear facilities, and further strikes against him and his military should he not get the message.
MartG said:
Cobnapint said:
So despite all the statements that South Korea and the West would not accept a nuclear armed NK - here we are - with a nuclear armed NK.
OK, US experts say they are 5, 6, 7 years away from being able to deliver them. But that doesn't matter - in time, they WILL be able to deliver them.
That'll leave us in a situation where we'll have gone from having to tolerate a belligerent gobsh*te who liked making threats and throwing his weight around BEFORE having nuclear weapons, to having one that does all that and is able to walk the walk too.
Not only will this put an instant end to all our pie and hair doo jokes, but it will have almost certain catastrophic consequences for anybody who even slightly upsets the guy.
You could argue that he wouldn't do it because of the MAD theory. But he's mad in the first place, so why let the opportunity materialise in the first place.
He's laughing at the sanctions, so there is only one solution left now, the threat of a full on preemptive strike against all of his nuclear facilities, and further strikes against him and his military should he not get the message.
Maybe this is why the US are moving back into Cheyenne Mountain, after deactivating it 10 years agoOK, US experts say they are 5, 6, 7 years away from being able to deliver them. But that doesn't matter - in time, they WILL be able to deliver them.
That'll leave us in a situation where we'll have gone from having to tolerate a belligerent gobsh*te who liked making threats and throwing his weight around BEFORE having nuclear weapons, to having one that does all that and is able to walk the walk too.
Not only will this put an instant end to all our pie and hair doo jokes, but it will have almost certain catastrophic consequences for anybody who even slightly upsets the guy.
You could argue that he wouldn't do it because of the MAD theory. But he's mad in the first place, so why let the opportunity materialise in the first place.
He's laughing at the sanctions, so there is only one solution left now, the threat of a full on preemptive strike against all of his nuclear facilities, and further strikes against him and his military should he not get the message.
glazbagun said:
Cobnapint said:
So despite all the statements that South Korea and the West would not accept a nuclear armed NK - here we are - with a nuclear armed NK.
OK, US experts say they are 5, 6, 7 years away from being able to deliver them. But that doesn't matter - in time, they WILL be able to deliver them.
That'll leave us in a situation where we'll have gone from having to tolerate a belligerent gobsh*te who liked making threats and throwing his weight around BEFORE having nuclear weapons, to having one that does all that and is able to walk the walk too.
This is another reason why the Iraq War was bullsOK, US experts say they are 5, 6, 7 years away from being able to deliver them. But that doesn't matter - in time, they WILL be able to deliver them.
That'll leave us in a situation where we'll have gone from having to tolerate a belligerent gobsh*te who liked making threats and throwing his weight around BEFORE having nuclear weapons, to having one that does all that and is able to walk the walk too.
t- worried that Saddam might have WMD stashed away somewhere so well that Hans Blix couldn't find it, meanwhile NK is openly developing nukes and noone does fkall.What it does display to the world is that you really need nukes if you want to prevent invasion.
5ohmustang said:
Operation Arc Light 2?
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN11J059
No, nothing like it.http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN11J059
Just more ineffective gesturing, no action.
Like NK is actually bothered about a handful of USAF bombers out on a jolly over SK. They have annual war games with the South, ffs, with sh*t loads more kit than that knocking about.
The funniest part of that article is the bit where the US says it is still open to meaningful dialogue with Pyongyang on ending it's pursuit of nuclear weapons.
LOL. Talk about behind the game.
Cobnapint said:
5ohmustang said:
Operation Arc Light 2?
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN11J059
No, nothing like it.http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN11J059
Just more ineffective gesturing, no action.
Like NK is actually bothered about a handful of USAF bombers out on a jolly over SK. They have annual war games with the South, ffs, with sh*t loads more kit than that knocking about.
The funniest part of that article is the bit where the US says it is still open to meaningful dialogue with Pyongyang on ending it's pursuit of nuclear weapons.
LOL. Talk about behind the game.
Cobnapint said:
... there is only one solution left now, the threat of a full on preemptive strike against all of his nuclear facilities, and further strikes against him and his military should he not get the message.
You mean doing the exact same thing that led to North Korea in the first place?durbster said:
Cobnapint said:
... there is only one solution left now, the threat of a full on preemptive strike against all of his nuclear facilities, and further strikes against him and his military should he not get the message.
You mean doing the exact same thing that led to North Korea in the first place?Issue is the people have been in there too long. The people believe the lies, no matter how much we laugh at them. The west hasn't got the ability to re-educate or relocate the inevitable 25 million refugees. If we bomb the s
t out of them, it just feeds the fire. There is no easy solution to North Korea - which is probably why no ones done anything about it.Matthen said:
durbster said:
Cobnapint said:
... there is only one solution left now, the threat of a full on preemptive strike against all of his nuclear facilities, and further strikes against him and his military should he not get the message.
You mean doing the exact same thing that led to North Korea in the first place?Issue is the people have been in there too long. The people believe the lies, no matter how much we laugh at them. The west hasn't got the ability to re-educate or relocate the inevitable 25 million refugees. If we bomb the s
t out of them, it just feeds the fire. There is no easy solution to North Korea - which is probably why no ones done anything about it.SK/China could not deal with the refugees and the civilian deaths could be massive.
I would suggest starting by getting the USA out of the equation, and getting a country with some credibility and history of successful negotiation to have a shot.
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