North Korea - how serious should we take them?

North Korea - how serious should we take them?

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Cobnapint

8,636 posts

152 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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Efbe said:
It's pretty obvious a military answer is the very last thing anyone needs.
SK/China could not deal with the refugees and the civilian deaths could be massive.

I would suggest starting by getting the USA out of the equation, and getting a country with some credibility and history of successful negotiation to have a shot.
Having to deal with an emboldened paranoid nut-job, who, in between all his threats to turn the West into a massive fireball, may well be open to very large sums of money from global terrorist organisations for some of his latest hardware - is quite low on everybody's wish list too.

There is nobody, nor anything, that will be able to convince this brainwashed leader or his brainwashed nation, that not being on level terms in the weaponry department with the country they are taught to despise and distrust from infant school age, is a good idea.

Get used to it. It is happening.

hidetheelephants

24,577 posts

194 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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jmorgan said:
Only one loon wants a military option if the odds were right.
Outsource the pacification to google and Amazon; once Amazon have their drone fleet operational deliver cheapo android phones and tablets to everyone in NK and use that flying buttock thing at Cardington as a loitering super wifi node. They all get dominos delivered en-masse once a week until there's a revolution or the fat man karks it. Google can cause insurrection by making irreverent doodles of the fat man and the generals in giant hats.

Wacky Racer

38,209 posts

248 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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hidetheelephants said:
jmorgan said:
Only one loon wants a military option if the odds were right.
Outsource the pacification to google and Amazon; once Amazon have their drone fleet operational deliver cheapo android phones and tablets to everyone in NK and use that flying buttock thing at Cardington as a loitering super wifi node. They all get dominos delivered en-masse once a week until there's a revolution or the fat man karks it. Google can cause insurrection by making irreverent doodles of the fat man and the generals in giant hats.
wtf!......laugh

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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Wacky Racer said:
hidetheelephants said:
jmorgan said:
Only one loon wants a military option if the odds were right.
Outsource the pacification to google and Amazon; once Amazon have their drone fleet operational deliver cheapo android phones and tablets to everyone in NK and use that flying buttock thing at Cardington as a loitering super wifi node. They all get dominos delivered en-masse once a week until there's a revolution or the fat man karks it. Google can cause insurrection by making irreverent doodles of the fat man and the generals in giant hats.
wtf!......laugh
OD him on buns....

hidetheelephants

24,577 posts

194 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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jmorgan said:
Wacky Racer said:
hidetheelephants said:
jmorgan said:
Only one loon wants a military option if the odds were right.
Outsource the pacification to google and Amazon; once Amazon have their drone fleet operational deliver cheapo android phones and tablets to everyone in NK and use that flying buttock thing at Cardington as a loitering super wifi node. They all get dominos delivered en-masse once a week until there's a revolution or the fat man karks it. Google can cause insurrection by making irreverent doodles of the fat man and the generals in giant hats.
wtf!......laugh
OD him on buns....
Indeed; alternate deliveries between Baskin Robbins and Dominos, pizza and doughnut armageddon. hehe

230TE

2,506 posts

187 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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MartG said:
North Korea appears to have run out of windscreen wiper blades.

skyrover

12,680 posts

205 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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Efbe said:
Matthen said:
durbster said:
Cobnapint said:
... there is only one solution left now, the threat of a full on preemptive strike against all of his nuclear facilities, and further strikes against him and his military should he not get the message.
You mean doing the exact same thing that led to North Korea in the first place?
Doubt it. There is no need for a ground invasion, fire cruise missiles at them from the yellow sea. The primary concern will be the spreading of the nuclear material they already have. Something has to be done though...

Issue is the people have been in there too long. The people believe the lies, no matter how much we laugh at them. The west hasn't got the ability to re-educate or relocate the inevitable 25 million refugees. If we bomb the st out of them, it just feeds the fire. There is no easy solution to North Korea - which is probably why no ones done anything about it.

it's pretty obvious a military answer is the very last thing anyone needs.
SK/China could not deal with the refugees and the civilian deaths could be massive.

I would suggest starting by getting the USA out of the equation, and getting a country with some credibility and history of successful negotiation to have a shot.
Can you name one?

Lets face it, the only country who can do anything about the North Koreans is China

SilverSixer

8,202 posts

152 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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230TE said:
North Korea appears to have run out of windscreen wiper blades.
This did used to be the case in the USSR. People would keep the wiper blades inside the car and stop to get out and affix them when it started raining/snowing. This was so they wouldn't be nicked off the car when it was parked. Most cars had two arc shaped scratches on the windscreens from when the driver had forgotten the blades weren't fitted and switched the wipers on. Screeeeeech.

Similarly, there was a match shortage when I was there, so people just used to leave one gas ring going on the cooker all day and night, as gas was so cheap it was cheaper and easier than trying to get matches on the black market. The biggest inconvenience this caused people was the constant requests from strangers for a light for their fags when out on the street.

Despite all this farcical nonsense, I used to quite like some aspects of Communism. I would be very interested to visit NK, but I don't think even I'd want to hang around too long.


Edited by SilverSixer on Friday 16th September 14:47

irocfan

40,582 posts

191 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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5ohmustang said:
bloody hell I didn't realise that the B1s were that big!!!


SilverSixer said:
I would be very interested to visit NK, but I don't think even I'd want to hang around too long.
Perversely I feel the same way

230TE

2,506 posts

187 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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irocfan said:
Perversely I feel the same way
Me too. North Korea is starting to fascinate me. They have a car factory. It's part-owned by the Moonies, assembles CKD car kits from China and turns out around 400 cars a year. No idea how many people it employs, but I could probably assemble nearly that many on my own, given some decent power tools.

I think those giant barges in the photo are ZIL limos, acquired before the Russians lost patience with the Norks and asked for their money back.

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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230TE said:
I think those giant barges in the photo are ZIL limos, acquired before the Russians lost patience with the Norks and asked for their money back.
I wonder where they source parts for them..or they improvise something.

discusdave

412 posts

194 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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they also stole 1000 Volvo's from Sweden the swedes send them an invoice every 6 months.
happened in the 90s i think.

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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more like in 70s, as those were old 144s I think

KTF

9,823 posts

151 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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The internet site details that have been leaked include ones like this:

http://rodong.rep.kp./en/

Yes the . after kp is correct and yes it takes forever to load.

Once it does load you can read all about the glorious leaders activities.


irocfan

40,582 posts

191 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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KTF said:
The internet site details that have been leaked include ones like this:

http://rodong.rep.kp./en/

Yes the . after kp is correct and yes it takes forever to load.

Once it does load you can read all about the glorious leaders activities.

lol you just beat me to it

SilverSixer

8,202 posts

152 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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kp. Nuts.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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KTF said:
The internet site details that have been leaked include ones like this:

http://rodong.rep.kp./en/

Yes the . after kp is correct and yes it takes forever to load.

Once it does load you can read all about the glorious leaders activities.

I reckon I can hear a modem dialling North Korea hehe

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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And here
http://www.kcna.kp/kcna.user.home.retrieveHomeInfo...

One of the stores he is in a fruit farm.

KTF

9,823 posts

151 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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SilverSixer said:
kp. Nuts.
I see what you did there smile

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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jmorgan said:
And here
http://www.kcna.kp/kcna.user.home.retrieveHomeInfo...

One of the stores he is in a fruit farm.
Interesting url...