David Miliband to quit politics?
Discussion
Bradgate said:
David Miliband has realised that Ed has not, as many people expected, been completely out of his depth as Labour leader. The Tories are now so unpopular that there is a chance Ed could be PM in two years time. That being the case, David realised that his chances of leading the party had gone.
David's big mistake was voting for the illegal Iraq war. If he had opposed it and resigned, he and not his brother might now be in line to be PM.
I think it's more likely the case that he's realised that despite being (as David had expected) completely out of his depth in interviews much of the time, personally unpopular and leading a party that just lost a general election, Ed might actually end up PM in 2015. Labour won't want any internal rifts before the next election, so sweeping to power on a wave of dissatisfaction in Ed isn't going to happen.David's big mistake was voting for the illegal Iraq war. If he had opposed it and resigned, he and not his brother might now be in line to be PM.
I suspect he's then looked at what that's going to mean - Ed's going to have a hard time appeasing the unions (who put him where he is) and the left (who are already forming new hard left 'peoples protest' parties, hoping to 'do a UKIP') while doing anything at all about the economy, quite possibly making him even more unpopular than Brown was or Cameron is currently.
He'll be back, he's just letting the next few years screw Labour and Ed up good and proper before he comes back into politics.
Bradgate said:
David Miliband has realised that Ed has not, as many people expected, been completely out of his depth as Labour leader. The Tories are now so unpopular that there is a chance Ed could be PM in two years time. That being the case, David realised that his chances of leading the party had gone.
David's big mistake was voting for the illegal Iraq war. If he had opposed it and resigned, he and not his brother might now be in line to be PM.
Either way Milliband D is out of the running. If Labour win the next election & at present it looks as if they may do so then we'll be talking about prime minister Ed & not Milliband D's sneaky brother & if they lose, the Labour party is not about to say we picked the wrong Milliband, let's give the other one a go. He's finished as a prospect.David's big mistake was voting for the illegal Iraq war. If he had opposed it and resigned, he and not his brother might now be in line to be PM.
Mojocvh said:
"Tony Blair, former Labour leader and prime minister, said: "I congratulate David on his appointment to a major international position. It shows the huge regard in which David is held worldwide. I'm sure he will do a great job. He is obviously a massive loss to UK politics."
In the interview this morning, there was suggestion that he is not ruling out a return to politics.
Zzzzz... Cheap point. I could name ex pollys of all stripes who've gone on to do the same thing.
Slightly perverse view that someone should be disbarred from exploiting their connections to earn a living big or small after a political career. Nor do I subscribe to the irrational view that being a Labour ex. polly somehow means one has to restrict oneself to minimum wage endeavours in order to retain credibility/integrity/solidarity whatever.
Slightly perverse view that someone should be disbarred from exploiting their connections to earn a living big or small after a political career. Nor do I subscribe to the irrational view that being a Labour ex. polly somehow means one has to restrict oneself to minimum wage endeavours in order to retain credibility/integrity/solidarity whatever.
He's going for one reason, and one reason only... and it's nowt to do with his bruv.
He's seen the portfolio of Bliar and he wants some it (ie £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££s!)
In fact, he started some time ago.
He earns the equivalent of £42,000 A WEEK! from Sunderland FC since becoming a director of football there. What's he know about football? FA. Get it!?
His pro-rata figure is higher than Sunderland defender Titus Bramble’s £30,000- a-week and even surpasses that of Sunderland/France's International striker Louis Saha.
He knows what he's doing. Good riddance!
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...oh, and stay there. Pleeeassse!
The only good thing is a by-election (bit of a formality, but who comes 2nd could be good for a laugh!)
He's seen the portfolio of Bliar and he wants some it (ie £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££s!)
In fact, he started some time ago.
He earns the equivalent of £42,000 A WEEK! from Sunderland FC since becoming a director of football there. What's he know about football? FA. Get it!?
His pro-rata figure is higher than Sunderland defender Titus Bramble’s £30,000- a-week and even surpasses that of Sunderland/France's International striker Louis Saha.
He knows what he's doing. Good riddance!
edit
...oh, and stay there. Pleeeassse!
The only good thing is a by-election (bit of a formality, but who comes 2nd could be good for a laugh!)
Edited by dandarez on Wednesday 27th March 14:12
Justin Cyder said:
Zzzzz... Cheap point. I could name ex pollys of all stripes who've gone on to do the same thing.
Many of the other 'polly stripes' managed it before entering politics due to having some sort of talent beyond the ability to lie convincingly. Which is why we get this sort of thing from the new-in-labour.
Former Labour Mister Speaker Gorbals Mick said:
I did not come into politics not to take what is owed to me.
Justin Cyder said:
'Some sort of talent beyond the ability to lie convincingly'...
Well if you're really that jaundiced there's two conclusions. One, you should leave well alone, it doesn't seem to be doing you any good & two, there's not much point debating it with one so convinced.
Going off no more than the evidence before me on a daily basis - and I did say 'many' not 'all' in each regard. If the facts change, I may change my view.Well if you're really that jaundiced there's two conclusions. One, you should leave well alone, it doesn't seem to be doing you any good & two, there's not much point debating it with one so convinced.
I don't think the 'evidence' would be quite so credible when scaled up to north of 600 representatives & besides the original point stands - it is human nature to exploit our talents & connections for our own benefit.
Why should a politician be any different in this regard provided they are following the rules laid down by Parliament?
Why should a politician be any different in this regard provided they are following the rules laid down by Parliament?
Justin Cyder said:
I don't think the 'evidence' would be quite so credible when scaled up to north of 600 representatives & besides the original point stands - it is human nature to exploit our talents & connections for our own benefit.
Why should a politician be any different in this regard provided they are following the rules laid down by Parliament?
That's not the main point(s) surely? There are two or three afaics: one regarding hypocrisy which is inherent to fat wallet socialism, the other to whether the talents exist and if the exploitation for personal benefit (in context) is ethical.Why should a politician be any different in this regard provided they are following the rules laid down by Parliament?
Mojocvh said:
"Tony Blair, former Labour leader and prime minister, said: "I congratulate David on his appointment to a major international position. It shows the huge regard in which David is held worldwide. I'm sure he will do a great job. He is obviously a massive loss to UK politics."
Can I just say that I hold him in no regard whatsoever,I will not miss him and also that I think he is a prat.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff