Owen Jones v the Princes; who has served the country most?
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Murph7355 said:
crankedup said:
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I'm intrigued to know, just how do you imagine your average Socialist lives?
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Spending every waking hour wondering how they can give more of their money away to those less fortunate than themselves?I'm intrigued to know, just how do you imagine your average Socialist lives?
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Murph7355 said:
Spending every waking hour wondering how they can give more of their money away to those less fortunate than themselves?
Its funny how socialists who get rich always want to force other people to give money to the poor but not do it themselves.Right wingers as a whole give money to charity more often and give more when they do.
Sir Humphrey said:
Murph7355 said:
Spending every waking hour wondering how they can give more of their money away to those less fortunate than themselves?
Its funny how socialists who get rich always want to force other people to give money to the poor but not do it themselves.Right wingers as a whole give money to charity more often and give more when they do.
longblackcoat said:
Any evidence of this, or is it just one of those "well known facts" which is trotted out?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html?hp&_r=0[quote]Arthur Brooks, the author of a book on donors to charity, “Who Really Cares,” cites data that households headed by conservatives give 30 percent more to charity than households headed by liberals. A study by Google found an even greater disproportion: average annual contributions reported by conservatives were almost double those of liberals.
Sir Humphrey said:
longblackcoat said:
Any evidence of this, or is it just one of those "well known facts" which is trotted out?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html?hp&_r=0[quote]Arthur Brooks, the author of a book on donors to charity, “Who Really Cares,” cites data that households headed by conservatives give 30 percent more to charity than households headed by liberals. A study by Google found an even greater disproportion: average annual contributions reported by conservatives were almost double those of liberals.
Oh, and Arthur Brooks? This is the same man who argues that the more religious you are, the happier you are? Not sure I'd be citing him as an expert in very much at all.
Sir Humphrey said:
Murph7355 said:
Spending every waking hour wondering how they can give more of their money away to those less fortunate than themselves?
Its funny how socialists who get rich always want to force other people to give money to the poor but not do it themselves.Right wingers as a whole give money to charity more often and give more when they do.
Murph7355 said:
crankedup said:
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I'm intrigued to know, just how do you imagine your average Socialist lives?
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Spending every waking hour wondering how they can give more of their money away to those less fortunate than themselves?I'm intrigued to know, just how do you imagine your average Socialist lives?
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longblackcoat said:
You've looked at the percentages donated, right?
Oh, and Arthur Brooks? This is the same man who argues that the more religious you are, the happier you are? Not sure I'd be citing him as an expert in very much at all.
Are you going to argue with his data or analysis at all?Oh, and Arthur Brooks? This is the same man who argues that the more religious you are, the happier you are? Not sure I'd be citing him as an expert in very much at all.
crankedup said:
Sir Humphrey said:
Murph7355 said:
Spending every waking hour wondering how they can give more of their money away to those less fortunate than themselves?
Its funny how socialists who get rich always want to force other people to give money to the poor but not do it themselves.Right wingers as a whole give money to charity more often and give more when they do.
andymadmak said:
crankedup said:
Sir Humphrey said:
Murph7355 said:
Spending every waking hour wondering how they can give more of their money away to those less fortunate than themselves?
Its funny how socialists who get rich always want to force other people to give money to the poor but not do it themselves.Right wingers as a whole give money to charity more often and give more when they do.
crankedup said:
Wealthy (don't ask me to define wealthy again, please!)lefties very likely do use the same concessions. Its just that I responded to the earlier post which opined that only wealthy 'on the Right'contributed to charity.
But in the US (where most of this study was done) conservative voters earn 6% less, yet donate 30% more.So if anything its that less wealthy people donate more money to charity.
Sir Humphrey said:
crankedup said:
Wealthy (don't ask me to define wealthy again, please!)lefties very likely do use the same concessions. Its just that I responded to the earlier post which opined that only wealthy 'on the Right'contributed to charity.
But in the US (where most of this study was done) conservative voters earn 6% less, yet donate 30% more.So if anything its that less wealthy people donate more money to charity.
TTwiggy said:
US notions of conservative and liberal are rather different to ours. They don't really do 'socialism' either.
That is true, however I would say that their liberal is more or less equal to our socialist.Their conservative movement seems to have a lot more integrity and organisation than ours.
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