What is the UK coming to?

[zygalski]

This story seems to have been virtually buried in the news media. Heard plenty about Woolwich though.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2318229/Mu...

A grandfather fatally stabbed in the back as he walked home from a mosque may have been the victim of a racist attack, police said yesterday as they released CCTV footage of a white man fleeing the scene.
Muhammed Saleem, 75, was stabbed three times and stamped on as he made his way back from his local mosque on Monday evening.

White man seen fleeing the scene


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suwwENGXMpA

[Centurion07]

zygalski said:

This story seems to have been virtually buried in the news media. Heard plenty about Woolwich though.

The difference being that this crime, although just as serious, is far more common than an actual beheading, and not only a beheading but one in broad daylight, in public, AND the two suspects chose to hang around afterwards.

This, in comparison, is no more serious than any other stabbing that happens on any other day of the week.

[ewenm]

Disgusting and shameful but sadly not all that unusual, hence the lack of coverage.

[jshell]

zygalski said:

This story seems to have been virtually buried in the news media. Heard plenty about Woolwich though.

Google this phrase: "bbc news man stabbed in back uk" ...and see the 25,800,000 hits that it gets.

I don't think it's being supressed, I think it's such a routine crime that it's almost not newsworthy any more.

[Eric Mc]

If it ever was.

[zygalski]

The family apparently received 2 threatening letters from the EDL before the murder.

Edited by zygalski on Wednesday 29th May 15:07

[ewenm]

zygalski said:

The family apparently received 2 threatening letters from the EDL.

Hopefully the police are investigating fully. Unfortunately it's just not as newsworthy (read sensational/sales-worthy) as the events in Woolwich.

[Victor McDade]

jshell said:

I don't think it's being supressed, I think it's such a routine crime that it's almost not newsworthy any more.

+1

This guy was a family member of a friend. Stabbed on his way back home from work in B'ham and died in his mothers arms on his doorstep Didn't make the national tv news.

http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/np/birminghamno...

Edited by Victor McDade on Wednesday 29th May 15:13

[MX7]

zygalski said:

This story seems to have been virtually buried in the news media. Heard plenty about Woolwich though.

There were over 500 murders last year in the UK. Do you really not understand why Woolwich has gained more attention than most?

[zygalski]

MX7 said:

There were over 500 murders last year in the UK. Do you really not understand why Woolwich has gained more attention than most?

How many of those 500 had threatening letters sent to relatives from racists shortly before the murders took place?

[BOR]

From the outside, it looks like a country that's becoming more and more insular. The rise of UKIP suggests a tendency to raise barriers to anyone outside of Britain, and combined with the rise of fascist groups like the EDL makes Britain look increasingly unpleasant.

[Centurion07]

zygalski said:

How many of those 500 had threatening letters sent to relatives from racists shortly before the murders took place?

So what exactly makes one murder more newsworthy than another?

[andymadmak]

zygalski said:

How many of those 500 had threatening letters sent to relatives from racists shortly before the murders took place?

I said this on the Woolwich thread.

"There have been suggestions from Mr Saleems daughter that the old man might have been targeted by EDL supporters as a reprisal - apparently the EDL supporters believe that Mr Saleem's son was using his gym business as a cover to train terrorists. Threats of retribution were made apparently if the business was not closed down. As I understand it, there is no evidence at this time to support the EDL assertion... but also there is no evidence to suggest that the murder is indeed linked to this.
Hopefully the Police will get to the bottom of this awful crime as soon as possible."

This is a terrible crime for sure. Sadly, knife attacks in our cities are far from uncommon these days. Until the motive for the attack has been established it would be wrong to assume that the EDL threats were anything more than just that. I'll grant you that it's the best place to start looking for whoever did this, but unlike Woolwich, we don't have the perpetrator(s) standing in the street, bloodied and armed to the teeth, declaring their reasons. I just hope the Police nail whoever did it. Murdering an old man on his way home from prayers is a cowardly, despicable act.

[zygalski]

Centurion07 said:

So what exactly makes one murder more newsworthy than another?

If Muslim extremist nutters rather than White Supremacist nutters are the ones doing the killing, apparently...

[GG89]

zygalski said:

Centurion07 said:

So what exactly makes one murder more newsworthy than another?

If Muslim extremist nutters rather than White Supremacist nutters are the ones doing the killing, apparently...

NO one has been arrested for this yet, can you honestly not see the difference between the two? Please keep your stupid conspiracy theories to yourself, it's in rather bad taste.

[plasticpig]

zygalski said:

How many of those 500 had threatening letters sent to relatives from racists shortly before the murders took place?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-22...

Appears to be motivated on religion; not race.

[MX7]

zygalski said:

MX7 said:

There were over 500 murders last year in the UK. Do you really not understand why Woolwich has gained more attention than most?

How many of those 500 had threatening letters sent to relatives from racists shortly before the murders took place?

28.

[zygalski]

GG89 said:

NO one has been arrested for this yet, can you honestly not see the difference between the two? Please keep your stupid conspiracy theories to yourself, it's in rather bad taste.

The relatives & the local Police force think the murder is linked to EDL threats to the family.

[MX7]

BOR said:

From the outside, it looks like a country that's becoming more and more insular. The rise of UKIP suggests a tendency to raise barriers to anyone outside of Britain, and combined with the rise of fascist groups like the EDL makes Britain look increasingly unpleasant.

Good to see that you've eliminated any far right parties in Germany. Congratulations.

[Mr_B]

zygalski said:

GG89 said:

NO one has been arrested for this yet, can you honestly not see the difference between the two? Please keep your stupid conspiracy theories to yourself, it's in rather bad taste.

The relatives & the local Police force think the murder is linked to EDL threats to the family.

From what I've read, the Police are aware of the letters and they would obviously form a part of the inquiry. Where have they say it is linked, rather than a line of inquiry ? There is a big difference.