Anjem Choudary

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Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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BlackLabel said:
Great - he's set to be released soon. rolleyes


"Anjem Choudary, the notorious Islamist hate preacher, will be released from jail next month despite a chilling warning from the justice minister that he remained “genuinely dangerous”.

Choudary, 51, is due to be freed within weeks after serving half of a five-and-a-half-year prison sentence for encouraging Muslims to join Islamic State.

The Government admitted on Tuesday it was powerless to prevent Choudary from being released on licence. Rory Stewart, the prisons minister, said that the preacher was “a deeply pernicious, destabilising influence”."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/11/notori...
He will be busy for a few weeks signing back up for a multitude of benefits. I doubt you'll hear much from him as he will have strict bail conditions. Break one and he will be back in the clink

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 12th September 2018
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Jon Snow and the other silly s from Channel 4 news will be bending over backwards to try and get him on their programme.
The amount of coverage they gave to this complete tosser IMHO didn't do much for race relations in this country.
I doubt he represented anything like the amount of people who he thought he spoke for

selym

9,544 posts

172 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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The symmetry of life is an amazing thing; 2m bill to the taxpayer for Princess Eugenie's wedding Vs 2m to keep tabs on that horrible .
I know where I'd prefer the money to go.

Murph7355

37,768 posts

257 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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selym said:
The symmetry of life is an amazing thing; 2m bill to the taxpayer for Princess Eugenie's wedding Vs 2m to keep tabs on that horrible .
I know where I'd prefer the money to go.
Neither.

selym

9,544 posts

172 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Murph7355 said:
Neither.
That's as maybe, but I still know which one I'd prefer the 2m be used on.

jdw100

4,126 posts

165 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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selym said:
Murph7355 said:
Neither.
That's as maybe, but I still know which one I'd prefer the 2m be used on.
Obviously on keeping tabs on a person known for radicalising quite a number of actual and potential terrorists.

Noodle1982

2,103 posts

107 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Why is his right wing group banned but not the 'far right group' the EDL?

CoolHands

18,714 posts

196 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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Can’t they spend 2 mill a year on lawyers to work out how to get this tt kicked out th Uk?

rscott

14,779 posts

192 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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CoolHands said:
Can’t they spend 2 mill a year on lawyers to work out how to get this tt kicked out th Uk?
Not that easy when he was born here and only has British nationality. If he had dual then it might be possible.

selym

9,544 posts

172 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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jdw100 said:
selym said:
Murph7355 said:
Neither.
That's as maybe, but I still know which one I'd prefer the 2m be used on.
Obviously on keeping tabs on a person known for radicalising quite a number of actual and potential terrorists.
The only reason we have to spend that 2m is because he is not being moved along.

del mar

2,838 posts

200 months

Monday 15th October 2018
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That is a lot of money to carry out surveillance on the poor muslim community.

It wont take long for community leaders and idiot politicians to realise that to monitor him, you also need to monitor who he talks to, where he goes and who he meets.

He wont be talking to / meeting the EDL, he will be speaking to other Muslims who we will have to photograph, be aware of their background etc etc.


Or we could forgive him and move on as Warsi appears to suggest ?

https://twitter.com/APPGBritMuslims (october the 10th tweet)


jdw100

4,126 posts

165 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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selym said:
The only reason we have to spend that 2m is because he is not being moved along.
The question was a choice between monitoring a criminal or funding a minor royal’s wedding.

I went with the option for monitoring this guy.

Not sure re moving him along? We don’t deport our ‘crims’ to Australia anymore - so that’s out.

I suppose then that would open up the option then of being able to deport other British citizens - can’t see that working?

You could go for the USA’s three strikes - just follow him around until he commits another crime and lock him up for life? That then has to apply for everybody though....I think very few of us want that system.

Under the laws in the country where I live if you are a suspected terrorist they can now hold you indefinitely and pull in your family and associates if needs be, until convinced you no longer prove a threat. This has been done with people returning from fighting for ISIS, from Syria.. This has proved quite effective in keeping them off the streets but fairly ineffective in deradicalising them.

Specifically in the region I live, Bali, should you wish to engage in preaching hate against other religions, the West, the Government, other citizens and suggest Jihad, a caliphate through violence etc etc...typically you’ll end up in a rice paddy with a bullet in the back of your head.

That’s courtesy of one of the community organisations/gangs (they’re a very strange hybrid) that exist here. They gained in power after the Bali bombings, obviously people wanted no repeat of those terrible events. No terrorist attacks in 13 years, despite being a very target rich environment.

These executions go largely unreported in the media, I don’t think they get properly investigated, certainly never heard of a conviction. Certainly costs significantly less than £2m a year.


Trevatanus

11,128 posts

151 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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I think the legal system needs a radical (poor choice of words maybe). You imprison someone, you KNOW they are still a threat, yet you still release them to potentially carry out that threat after serving only half the sentence???

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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jdw100 said:
You could go for the USA’s three strikes - just follow him around until he commits another crime and lock him up for life? That then has to apply for everybody though....I think very few of us want that system.
I'm guessing that the only issue with this is we don't have enough resources to look after all the scumbags?

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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Can’t the US find something for him so he they can do another Abu Hamza?

Dindoit

1,645 posts

95 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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techiedave said:
Jon Snow and the other silly s from Channel 4 news will be bending over backwards to try and get him on their programme.
The amount of coverage they gave to this complete tosser IMHO didn't do much for race relations in this country.
I doubt he represented anything like the amount of people who he thought he spoke for
He appeared once in 2013 and was repeatedly hammered for radicalising Adebolajo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuIKukWV4Tg

jdw100

4,126 posts

165 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Mothersruin said:
jdw100 said:
You could go for the USA’s three strikes - just follow him around until he commits another crime and lock him up for life? That then has to apply for everybody though....I think very few of us want that system.
I'm guessing that the only issue with this is we don't have enough resources to look after all the scumbags?
I think the issue is no one with any sense of justice wants to see a hungry man go to prison for life for stealing a slice of pizza.....and other various results of the three strikes rulings.

It sounds great until it’s your brother your visiting in prison for the rest of his life because he forgot to...renew his car tax...or....decided to jump a bus without paying...or other stupid stuff that not very bright people do.

jdw100

4,126 posts

165 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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La Liga said:
Can’t the US find something for him so he they can do another Abu Hamza?
That would be an ideal solution.

I’m betting he’ll slip up in next few years anyway.

He has a big ego - like any politician he wants to be heard and bask in others adoration. He’ll preach the wrong thing to an audience he thinks he can trust and will be back in court.

It will take a few years though.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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I can’t understand the short sentencing and automatic release of these sorts of criminals.