Reading your email..

[raftom]

Breadvan72 said:

Meanwhile, a critical view of Snowden et al:-

http://archive.is/dB6Cm

Nothing new there. More like the regurgitated ramblings of a democratic partisan frustated because it was precisely during his friends shift that the NSA was caught pants down.

[anonymous-user]

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2091900/obama-admin...

Obama has done a data access deal of some sort with major internet players.

[jmorgan]

Wonder if Obama plays Angry Birds.

[anonymous-user]

He holds the World High Score for Angry Birds, so I hear, but he sucks at Minecraft.

[anonymous-user]

[Benni]

Snowden´s first interview from last week, german TV, in english, 30 minutes worth watching.

Very informative and scary, this guy should recieve political asylum in Germany,

will never happen because our govt is too much up the arse of the US.

http://www.ndr.de/ratgeber/netzwelt/snowden271.htm...

[Ozzie Osmond]

Benni said:

30 minutes worth watching.

It may well be, but doesn't play. I note a "Germany only" sign at the bottom ....

[Benni]

Ozzie Osmond said:

It may well be, but doesn't play. I note a "Germany only" sign at the bottom ....

Oh ste, I tried the link but I´m in Germany......try this one :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x38jkFlPeg

could be that it is blocked from YT in GB and USA.

[Halb]

Benni said:

Oh ste, I tried the link but I´m in Germany......try this one :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x38jkFlPeg

could be that it is blocked from YT in GB and USA.

"The uploader has not made this video available in your country."

[Benni]

Hmmmm....can´t help at the moment, maybe some copyright issues ?

Maybe you can read the transcript ?

http://www.ndr.de/ratgeber/netzwelt/snowden277.htm...

[Tonsko]

There's a zip of it on cryptome : http://cryptome.org/2014/01/snowden-video-13-0126....

[Benni]

Thanks Tonsko, for the link and the site in general, didn´t know it existed before.

[Tonsko]

Yw

[Art0ir]

+1 Tonsko, good watch.

[AJI]

10 Pence Short said:

My philisophy is that the state serves me. For the protection of the society I live in, I give up some freedoms, but no more than strictly necessary. I personally accept some level of risk in life and some personal responsibility.

In light of that, I don't give the state permission to intrude in my life unless they have very good reason. I don't work for or owe the state anything beyond that required to maintain civility and it will not be offered any more than that.

I think this sums up nicely what is expected between the relationship of state and public.

But knowing that the state has simply ignored this entirely, what can we do about it?
Do we have to wait until we find occurrences whereby somebody else demonstrates knowledge about your person than you've made 'public'?

[raftom]

Guardian and Washington Post awarded the 2014 Pulitzer for the Snowden stories.

Reuters said:

The Guardian US and The Washington Post were each awarded the Pulitzer Prize for public service for their coverage of secret surveillance by the U.S. National Security Agency. Their reporting was based on documents leaked by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, who revealed details of global electronic surveillance by the U.S. spy agency.

The board said the Guardian US' reporting helped to spark debate about the relationship between the U.S. government and the public over issues of security and privacy and the Post's reporting explained how the disclosures fit into a larger framework of national security.

[pcvdriver]

AJI said:

10 Pence Short said:

My philisophy is that the state serves me. For the protection of the society I live in, I give up some freedoms, but no more than strictly necessary. I personally accept some level of risk in life and some personal responsibility.

In light of that, I don't give the state permission to intrude in my life unless they have very good reason. I don't work for or owe the state anything beyond that required to maintain civility and it will not be offered any more than that.

I think this sums up nicely what is expected between the relationship of state and public.

But knowing that the state has simply ignored this entirely, what can we do about it?
Do we have to wait until we find occurrences whereby somebody else demonstrates knowledge about your person than you've made 'public'?

Watch out!!! Singlecoil and Snowboy and a few other usual suspects will be along shortly to tell us all "if we're doing nothing wrong - why should we worry about what powers the state are trying to over-exercise?"

[BlackLabel]

Apparently all the Snowden docs will be released next month including hundreds of thousands of top-secret US intelligence documents. Some of these even Snowden himself did not want released so I'm not sure how this 3rd party has got hold of them.

https://twitter.com/Cryptomeorg/status/48335346978...

[Silent1]

BlackLabel said:

Apparently all the Snowden docs will be released next month including hundreds of thousands of top-secret US intelligence documents. Some of these even Snowden himself did not want released so I'm not sure how this 3rd party has got hold of them.

https://twitter.com/Cryptomeorg/status/48335346978...

I bet greenwald and omidyar et al are stting themselves!

[anonymous-user]

They are claiming that they are releasing the documents in order to stop a war 'which was planned for July 2014'.

Sounds really quite tinfoil-hat-tastic to me.