Reading your email..
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Puggit said:
Apparently Snowden isn't welcome in the UK: http://news.sky.com/story/1103567/prism-whistleblo...
Well you could knock me down with a feather!news article said:
...deemed by the Home Office to be detrimental to the "public good"
Let's see:Convicted of any crime.............no
Tried for any crime................no
Charged with any crime..............no
Suspected of any crime in this country................no
Considered likely to commit any crime in this country...........no
He sounds well dodgy to me. Kafka would be so proud of the Home Office.
Tonsko said:
news article said:
...deemed by the Home Office to be detrimental to the "public good"
Oh do f
k off.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57589495-38/nsa-...
"NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants
National Security Agency discloses in secret Capitol Hill briefing that thousands of analysts can listen to domestic phone calls. That authorization appears to extend to e-mail and text messages too."
Bring back J. Edgar Hoover...
"NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants
National Security Agency discloses in secret Capitol Hill briefing that thousands of analysts can listen to domestic phone calls. That authorization appears to extend to e-mail and text messages too."
Bring back J. Edgar Hoover...
Edited by andy_s on Sunday 16th June 11:24
Guardian said:
GCHQ taps fibre-optic cables for secret access to world's communications
Exclusive: British spy agency collects and stores vast quantities of global email messages, Facebook posts, internet histories and calls, and shares them with NSA, latest documents from Edward Snowden reveal
Britain's spy agency GCHQ has secretly gained access to the network of cables which carry the world's phone calls and internet traffic and has started to process vast streams of sensitive personal information which it is sharing with its American partner, the National Security Agency (NSA).
The sheer scale of the agency's ambition is reflected in the titles of its two principal components: Mastering the Internet and Global Telecoms Exploitation, aimed at scooping up as much online and telephone traffic as possible. This is all being carried out without any form of public acknowledgement or debate.
One key innovation has been GCHQ's ability to tap into and store huge volumes of data drawn from fibre-optic cables for up to 30 days so that it can be sifted and analysed. That operation, codenamed Tempora, has been running for some 18 months.
GCHQ and the NSA are consequently able to access and process vast quantities of communications between entirely innocent people, as well as targeted suspects.
This includes recordings of phone calls, the content of email messages, entries on Facebook and the history of any internet user's access to websites – all of which is deemed legal, even though the warrant system was supposed to limit interception to a specified range of targets.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/21/gchq-cables-secret-world-communications-nsaExclusive: British spy agency collects and stores vast quantities of global email messages, Facebook posts, internet histories and calls, and shares them with NSA, latest documents from Edward Snowden reveal
Britain's spy agency GCHQ has secretly gained access to the network of cables which carry the world's phone calls and internet traffic and has started to process vast streams of sensitive personal information which it is sharing with its American partner, the National Security Agency (NSA).
The sheer scale of the agency's ambition is reflected in the titles of its two principal components: Mastering the Internet and Global Telecoms Exploitation, aimed at scooping up as much online and telephone traffic as possible. This is all being carried out without any form of public acknowledgement or debate.
One key innovation has been GCHQ's ability to tap into and store huge volumes of data drawn from fibre-optic cables for up to 30 days so that it can be sifted and analysed. That operation, codenamed Tempora, has been running for some 18 months.
GCHQ and the NSA are consequently able to access and process vast quantities of communications between entirely innocent people, as well as targeted suspects.
This includes recordings of phone calls, the content of email messages, entries on Facebook and the history of any internet user's access to websites – all of which is deemed legal, even though the warrant system was supposed to limit interception to a specified range of targets.
BBC said:
The US justice department has filed criminal charges against a fugitive ex-intelligence analyst who leaked details of a secret surveillance operation.
The charges against ex-National Security Agency (NSA) analyst Edward Snowden include espionage and theft of government property.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23012317The charges against ex-National Security Agency (NSA) analyst Edward Snowden include espionage and theft of government property.
Jasandjules said:
What is also concerning, what about legally privileged correspondence - let's say going further what about anyone suing the Govt who e-mails their lawyers? The information they could obtain.
Good point. Also I wonder if the government would use this to spy on other political parties. For them it would be a great resource come election time.
I guess the leaders of the nations that the U.S has been pointing the finger at have been reasonably measured about the situation because they always knew that the Yanks were up to such things so it hasn't come as a surprise. They are probably quite ecstatic that their suspicions have been confirmed by an insider, thus exposing the hypocrisy of the American accusations.
What annoys me more is the insular reaction by the American administration, where they seek to comfort their own citizens by saying they don't snoop on them but that they feel they have a right to indiscriminately snoop on the rest of the world.
What annoys me more is the insular reaction by the American administration, where they seek to comfort their own citizens by saying they don't snoop on them but that they feel they have a right to indiscriminately snoop on the rest of the world.
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