Is the end nigh for the Euro? [vol. 3]

[DJRC]

So I said enough was enough yesterday and told boss Id be working from home rest of week, I really needed to see the wife about the foot. Not a problem he said, well actually it was more - I don't really care - so long as you still deliver me the £7m by the end of the week. Drive home back from the south coast last night was fun. Into the Practice with the wife this morning for her to strap me up, diagnosis - fractured metatarsals, stay off the foot for at least a week or so or its 6 weeks off feet. Carry on working from home, trying to close down these deliveries to invoice for this dosh.

Why do I get the feeling this is not the Labour party view of the world? Ive spent the last 5 weeks in the UK now with work for the first time in about 5 yrs and Im fairly shocked to be honest. I used to think I was roughly in line with how the country thought/worked, from what I've seen and heard though now - well it seems Im a dinosaur

[Digga]

DJRC said:

Some of us married Cannock girls...

Now you mention it, I do remember that fact.

As for the foot, RICE: rest, ice, compression & elevation.

[Andy Zarse]

DJRC said:

Some of us married Cannock girls...

And some on us have got it in our blood. Bloxwich born and Bloxwich bred, strong in the arm and thick in the head.

[Digga]

Andy Zarse said:

DJRC said:

Some of us married Cannock girls...

And some on us have got it in our blood. Bloxwich born and Bloxwich bred, strong in the arm and thick in the head.

It's a small world. Back in 2005 (ish) we took over a fragment of what was Bloxwich Engineering.

DID you catch the Arthur & George thing on TV? The Arthur Conan Doyle / Wyrley Ripper story? Mrs & I had previously read the book and then, by chance, the history society in the next village had a talk where a lot of the original letters and documents were there to peruse, which was really interesting. TV adaptation was pretty good, other than the howler they put in about someone falling to their death off "Rugeley falls". (I'm assuming they must be on the canal somewhere.)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4439928/

[DJRC]

Digga said:

DJRC said:

Some of us married Cannock girls...

Now you mention it, I do remember that fact.

As for the foot, RICE: rest, ice, compression & elevation.

Cannock girls...and an Osteopath.

Padded and strapped up this morning, surrounded by 2 laptops, phones and in telecoms all afternoon. Oh the glamour of modern life!

[Art0ir]

Some positive figures from Ireland today.

Unemployment down to just over 10% and on course to crack single figures, deficit reduction targets for 2018 to be met by next year, nationalised banks back to decent profitability and some other tidbits.

I have no doubt we'll see this being lauded by the Troika over the coming weeks, but methinks it has everything to do with the UK's recovery and little to do with EU economic wisdom.

[Borghetto]

Art0ir said:

I have no doubt we'll see this being lauded by the Troika over the coming weeks, but methinks it has everything to do with the UK's recovery and little to do with EU economic wisdom.

That and the US recovery.

[Mr Whippy]

Borghetto said:

That and the US recovery.

Yep, patiently waiting forever to raise rates

[turbobloke]

Art0ir said:

Some positive figures from Ireland today.

Unemployment down to just over 10% and on course to crack single figures, deficit reduction targets for 2018 to be met by next year, nationalised banks back to decent profitability and some other tidbits.

I have no doubt we'll see this being lauded by the Troika over the coming weeks, but methinks it has everything to do with the UK's recovery and little to do with EU economic wisdom.

As ArtOir and Borghetto point out it's no time for EUphoria and at least one eurodrone knows the score

In November 2014 Marco Buti the European Commission Director General of Economic and Financial Affairs said:

The business cycle is decoupling from that of the euro-area, with Ireland benefiting from its strong trade links with the more dynamic UK and US markets.

[Steffan]

Digga said:

Andy Zarse said:

DJRC said:

Some of us married Cannock girls...

And some on us have got it in our blood. Bloxwich born and Bloxwich bred, strong in the arm and thick in the head.

It's a small world. Back in 2005 (ish) we took over a fragment of what was Bloxwich Engineering.

DID you catch the Arthur & George thing on TV? The Arthur Conan Doyle / Wyrley Ripper story? Mrs & I had previously read the book and then, by chance, the history society in the next village had a talk where a lot of the original letters and documents were there to peruse, which was really interesting. TV adaptation was pretty good, other than the howler they put in about someone falling to their death off "Rugeley falls". (I'm assuming they must be on the canal somewhere.)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4439928/

Interesting to hear how others regard particular places such as Bloxwich . To some extent their reputation preceedes them and the particular characterstics of some of the ingigenous population thereof is certainly interesting to hear about, especially the patterns of human behaviour sometimes displayed.

It certainly is a small world. The Black Country, in particuler, was a real eye opener to me years ago because the people living there really did distinguish themselves very much from the rest of the West Midlands urban sprawl and even between the various areas of the Black Country itself. I found that out at some cost personally, when buiding starter homes in Tioton and four bedroom, two bathroom detached houses ijudt down the road in Coselely, that the prospective buyers had a very strong preference for housing within the very specific area of the Black Country that they regarded as appropriate for their families and would not look at all favourably in the areas theyregarded as not for them.

Almost clannish in the personal identification with the areas they perceived as suitable for their home and we soon began to understand just how critical the geographical action was to the point where on side of the Dduley road, we could only hope to sell starter homs and the other side much more spacious much bigger housing. The genuine feeling in the Black Country of being part of a particular enclave and remaining within that enclave, if at all possible still continues to this day.

Being personally, a bit of a wanderer from Blackkheath and then Putney, London originally, who then moved to the Midlands and having sent most of my working life, thereabouts with cottages in Devon, the Quantocks, Dorset and Cornwall (not all at the same time!) providing rather more restful weekends and holiday. I really do not have that affinity for any particular area of the country. Nowadays we spend significantly more time abroad in Italy and Canada and the USA than we do in the UK. But I do find the genuine regard many individuals clearly have for the specific location of their home interesting.

To my mind the more critical matters are the actual home you have and the actual person or people that you actually live with. (Each to their own)! But that is really another subject entirely!

[RYH64E]

DJRC said:

So I said enough was enough yesterday and toldas you still deliver me the £7m by boss Id be working from home rest of week, I really needed to see the wife about the foot.

When I broke my leg I left work early one day, but that was just to get my full leg, toes to bks cast replaced with a much smaller one that enabled me to drive (which was more comfortable than being picked up in the works van and sitting in the back with my leg out straight).

[Steffan]

DJRC said:

Digga said:

DJRC said:

Some of us married Cannock girls...

Now you mention it, I do remember that fact.

As for the foot, RICE: rest, ice, compression & elevation.

Cannock girls...and an Osteopath.

Padded and strapped up this morning, surrounded by 2 laptops, phones and in telecoms all afternoon. Oh the glamour of modern life!

Sorry to hear you are in the wars! Times like these do focus the brain on what is really critical to getting the job done and being at home with your family in these circumstances is certainly the best place. Clearly having a wife with those medical skills is also a major benefit. Hope it all works out and normal (?) life returns forthwith.

I do agree with you that the nonsense of complaints about Zero hours contracts being unfair etc is just that. Sadly there is a growing element in the UK today amongst the non working population for whom there are no responsibilities or dutes and everything they aspire to, without any ersonal effort, is their right per se and their absolute entitlement. It is ridiculous and the Labour party are seeking to pander to those elements in the hope of getting sufficient votes in the forthcoming election.

Every individual must be primarily responsible for their own choices in life and their own lifestyle. It is up to every individual to establish what they want to do with ther lives and to find the lifestye that enables them to achieve what they are seeking. It is not the responsibility of society or the taxpayers to support idle layabouts who seek every opportunity to avoid work. Regrettably those facts are no longer universally accepted in the UK, hence the benefits provision soaring in the way it has and the actions taken by the government to try and minimise such abuse of the welfare system.

I sincerely hope that Labour lose heavily at the next election. I am by no means certain that they actually will. With any luck the twin pincers on Labour heartlands of the rise of UKIP and the Scottish question will prevent such a Labour victory. Time will tell.

[DJRC]

I have weak ankles and feet. The last time was on my right foot and I had the 308 in Zurich. Driving across Europe with a trashed foot in a 70s Italian ergonomic disaster that largely caused the problem in the first place is pretty much the reason I now drive automatics. There was at least some small measure of satisfaction to be gained at turning to the gloating comments of my work colleagues of "hope that's an automatic" to the 55 of simply nodding as saying yes it is and this is why!

Steffan, re: homes and where you are from. I've lived around Britain and Europe all my life and am a bit of a nomadic tart like yourself. I have now lived away from there longer than I lived there but it doesn't change and never will change where home is. It's stamped through me to the DNA. It's the reason why when a small obscure car company that was based behind where I used to play football was in trouble and needed customer I bought one. It was the reason why when they went bust I started a company up to keep some of the staff employed. It's the reaso. Why if I ever get my hands on a certain Russian I will tie him to the supports of North Pier and look him in the eyes till the tide drowns him. It's the reason why when my father and I sat and watched Charlie Adams beat Liverpool before he joined them we both watched in shocked silence. It's the reason why three weeks ago my brother travelled 15hrs back and I travelled 10hrs to go back to a church had of had been to in 20yrs at the top of the road. Blackpool is a soul deep part of me as anything I could ever attempt to conceive of.

What do they know, those that of England only they know? Well I know far more about the world these days from the modern Lux of Orange County to the ancient running track at Olympia and I still know this: Blackpool is home.

And Richard is still no king of mine

[Steffan]

DJRC said:

I have weak ankles and feet. The last time was on my right foot and I had the 308 in Zurich. Driving across Europe with a trashed foot in a 70s Italian ergonomic disaster that largely caused the problem in the first place is pretty much the reason I now drive automatics. There was at least some small measure of satisfaction to be gained at turning to the gloating comments of my work colleagues of "hope that's an automatic" to the 55 of simply nodding as saying yes it is and this is why!

Steffan, re: homes and where you are from. I've lived around Britain and Europe all my life and am a bit of a nomadic tart like yourself. I have now lived away from there longer than I lived there but it doesn't change and never will change where home is. It's stamped through me to the DNA. It's the reason why when a small obscure car company that was based behind where I used to play football was in trouble and needed customer I bought one. It was the reason why when they went bust I started a company up to keep some of the staff employed. It's the reaso. Why if I ever get my hands on a certain Russian I will tie him to the supports of North Pier and look him in the eyes till the tide drowns him. It's the reason why when my father and I sat and watched Charlie Adams beat Liverpool before he joined them we both watched in shocked silence. It's the reason why three weeks ago my brother travelled 15hrs back and I travelled 10hrs to go back to a church had of had been to in 20yrs at the top of the road. Blackpool is a soul deep part of me as anything I could ever attempt to conceive of.

What do they know, those that of England only they know? Well I know far more about the world these days from the modern Lux of Orange County to the ancient running track at Olympia and I still know this: Blackpool is home.

And Richard is still no king of mine

Well given the background above Richard coud hardly expect support from you coud he?

Interesting background ESP the car company support. You clearly support the things you hold dear and rightly so. Good to hear that someone has concerns about the place of ther birth and childhood.

Being a Son of the Manse fundamentally moulded my life and the experiences remain with me to this day. I am an ardent lover of English churches and I still follow in the footsteps of John Betjemen to this day visiting parish churches all over England. One of my favourite pastimes and entirely the result of decades spent wandering around so any English Parish Churches with my father. Great memories and very much part of my life, to this day.

[Welshbeef]

Art0ir said:

Some positive figures from Ireland today.

Unemployment down to just over 10% and on course to crack single figures, deficit reduction targets for 2018 to be met by next year, nationalised banks back to decent profitability and some other tidbits.

I have no doubt we'll see this being lauded by the Troika over the coming weeks, but methinks it has everything to do with the UK's recovery and little to do with EU economic wisdom.

Its a wonder the ROIreland don't want to rejoin the UK to share the growth be part of a winning team with its closest friend.

[Steffan]

Welshbeef said:

Art0ir said:

Some positive figures from Ireland today.

Unemployment down to just over 10% and on course to crack single figures, deficit reduction targets for 2018 to be met by next year, nationalised banks back to decent profitability and some other tidbits.

I have no doubt we'll see this being lauded by the Troika over the coming weeks, but methinks it has everything to do with the UK's recovery and little to do with EU economic wisdom.

Its a wonder the ROIreland don't want to rejoin the UK to share the growth be part of a winning team with its closest friend.

Indeed I do agree. The economy of Ireland is very dependant on the UK economy, growing which it is gradually at the moment.

On the Greek tragedy that has unfolding steadilyus continuing

Mr Baroso has been pontificating from his newfound retirement luxury now Visiting Proffesor at two Universities as well as being in receipt of his low tax pension. Nice work if you can get it, which he certainly did.

Latest news from the Beeb see: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-32154876

I do think this is of some interest because Barolo can and is saying what the current EU leaders will not actually say to avoid more conflict with Greece. The Greek government won the election on false promises. Which is of course entirely correct. Part of the gradual process that the EU are engaging in seeking to demonstrate when the time comes for reality to flood over the impossible position of Greece reminding within the Euro, which it will.



.

[DJRC]

It was more his pontificating about other countries in the Euro that have bounced back from disaster - following his guiding hand of course - that had me laughing.

That man is a walking gimp.

[Digga]

DJRC said:

It's the reason why when a small obscure car company that was based behind where I used to play football was in trouble and needed customer I bought one. It was the reason why when they went bust I started a company up to keep some of the staff employed. It's the reaso. Why if I ever get my hands on a certain Russian I will tie him to the supports of North Pier and look him in the eyes till the tide drowns him.

I think there are a good few of us who still hold a light for that little factory.

Mrs Digga and I have numerous fond memories of visits, a couple of which were when I was fortunate enough to be looking at my own car on the production line. I can also remember my wife getting lost in the factory one Bank holiday weekend - we'd arranged to drop my car in for service and swap keys with the security guard for whatever loan/press car and my wife needed to visit the toilet so the guard gave here (lengthy and complex, given the rabbit warren it was) directions through the works which, on re-emerging from the loo, she couldn't quite remember.

It was a scandal how the marque was allowed to die in the way it did.

ETA, as for Barahole, the unofficial EU line has to be to discredit the Greek government in any way it can, in order to undermine them and subdue the nation into surrender.

Edited by Digga on Thursday 2nd April 12:16

[Walford]

"completely unrealistic promises"

So why are we lending them money

[Andy Zarse]

The only time I went to that particular factory was a day when, between meetings, I found myself with an afternoon to spare in Blackpool. IIRC I think it was just before the Russian Doll took over, but post-heyday, the Tamoras/T350 were just about out.

Jesus H Christ doing resprays under the railway arches! I have honestly seen cleaner working conditions and more order in back street garages in Birmingham. The whole place was an utter shambles, and I speak as someone who witnessed both Longbridge and the utter mess that was the Triumph motorcycle co-op at Meriden! No wonder the bloody things were so unreliable, the place was an chaotic, I can't even begin to describe it. A friend who went there not long after said he saw a new Tuscan being worked on whilst jacked up on old oil barrels. Say what you like, but you'd never see that at Porsche!