Is the end nigh for the Euro? [vol. 3]

Is the end nigh for the Euro? [vol. 3]

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anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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Snoggledog said:
...the women are quite pleasing to the eye...
Yes er quite pleasing. There is no UK equivalent of an Estonian 7/10. wink

majordad

3,601 posts

198 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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Oh yes there is !


Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

248 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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Mermaid said:
DJRC said:
I must admit I fell over laughing at idea of Tzippy resigning adding 3 cents on the Euro smile
In Shaggy style, he would say "It wasn't me"
It's amusing to note the two central banks undertaking massive QE (ECB and Japanese) are seeing substantial rises in their currencies. I'm sure that wasn't in the script! hehe

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

248 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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Mermaid said:
DJRC said:
I must admit I fell over laughing at idea of Tzippy resigning adding 3 cents on the Euro smile
In Shaggy style, he would say "It wasn't me"
It's amusing to note the two central banks undertaking massive QE (ECB and Japanese) are seeing substantial rises in their currencies. I'm sure that wasn't in the script! hehe

YankeePorker

4,769 posts

242 months

Saturday 29th August 2015
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Testing, testing, 123.

Funny how quiet it's gone on the whole Greece issue. The EU übermensch might even be secretly delighted to have a tricky migrant issue to deal with as a way of putting the Grecian turmoils on the back burner.

Steffan

10,362 posts

229 months

Saturday 29th August 2015
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YankeePorker said:
Testing, testing, 123.

Funny how quiet it's gone on the whole Greece issue. The EU übermensch might even be secretly delighted to have a tricky migrant issue to deal with as a way of putting the Grecian turmoils on the back burner.
Funny how quiet its gone on this thread too, recently! Due to a Pistonheads software problem apparently?

At least we are back up and running now abd I thank the PH technicians for the restoration of the service. Long may this continue!? smile

As YankeePorker rightly says the media interest in the Greek problem has diminished as the latest economic madness by the EU has ensured that Greece continues to remain within the Euro at the sole expense of all the taxpayers within the Euro. Greece is hopelessly insolvent. Lending more and more to Greece is simply throwing good money after bad. This will become apparent to all once Greece defaults. Which will not be long in coming, I suggest.

Matter of time in my opinion. The EU may buy a few months at huge expense to the EU taxpayers. But Greece has not recovered in the last five years of subsidy from the EU, is still, not recovering and will not recover. Therefore default is inevitable.


LongQ

13,864 posts

234 months

Saturday 29th August 2015
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I suspect the hiatus might be related to majordad's post a few posts above.

It's one those that one might wish to unsee.

I have no desire to be reminded of it by any efforts to check the forum on a regular basis.

In about 100 additional pages and I might feel slightly safer (for no obvious reason I have to admit. Things might have gone downhill from here ....)

tumble dryer

2,019 posts

128 months

Saturday 29th August 2015
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They also serve who only stand and wait.

Gargamel

15,004 posts

262 months

Saturday 29th August 2015
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tumble dryer said:
They also serve who only stand and wait.
Indeed, pretty much waiting on the Greek elections. Euro as a currency is safe for now, nothing is going to happen until well after the elections. clearly the focus is on China from an economic PoV.


dubloon

64 posts

106 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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Gargamel said:
Euro as a currency is safe for now,
Well, maybe it always was.

DJRC

23,563 posts

237 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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The Euro was never going to fail over Greece. We may have got a mk3 Euro but the concept would have stuck around. Northern Europe is still comparatively prosperous and trading heavily. Currencies always evolve, change and mutate. I have no doubt the Euro will change again at some point. Whether it sticks though will not be answered anytime in the immediate future.

The economic strength of France and Italy remains the biggest current structural weakness of the Euro. Europe does not like to see any one of Germany, France or Britain too strong relative to the others.

Crusoe

4,068 posts

232 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Looks like 50% debt cut is required http://www.voxeu.org/article/greek-debt-sustainabi... though by the time they do the maths again after another round of Greek elections (20th September possibly) it could need even more. Keep buying themselves more time and throwing more money at it but music has to stop sometime.

Prince Philip

79 posts

106 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Economics stopped being about actual real people doing real stuff a while ago. Now it's numbers on a screen.

Press a button and more numbers on a screen appear.

Mr Whippy

29,067 posts

242 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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dubloon said:
Gargamel said:
Euro as a currency is safe for now,
Well, maybe it always was.
What does safe mean?

The real spending power degrading rapidly almost as much as every other currency, but just slightly not as much?

While interest rates are zero and salaries go nowhere, we're all in unsafe currencies right now, just it's slow so we don't really seem to care. But in a decade we'll probably look back and think, wtf!

cayman-black

12,649 posts

217 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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Prince Philip said:
Economics stopped being about actual real people doing real stuff a while ago. Now it's numbers on a screen.

Press a button and more numbers on a screen appear.
Good to see you PP!

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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How many years before the only solution is Fedralisation of EU fiscal Union and transfer of surplus to net off against the deficits.



Walford

2,259 posts

167 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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Welshbeef said:
How many years before the only solution is Fedralisation of EU fiscal Union and transfer of surplus to net off against the deficits.
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tumble dryer

2,019 posts

128 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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Walford said:
Welshbeef said:
How many years before the only solution is Fedralisation of EU fiscal Union and transfer of surplus to net off against the deficits.
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That's pushing it a bit.
You'll need to allow time for the UK elections first.
And cognitive dissonance afterwards.

Andrew[MG]

3,323 posts

199 months

Tuesday 15th September 2015
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Is this thread still alive? Can't seem to load the last page of it....

EDIT: looks like it is

Gargamel

15,004 posts

262 months

Tuesday 15th September 2015
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I think we have largely conceded that there is a future for the Euro as a currency for the time being.

Interesting though that German are quick to threaten to withdraw funding for the project if they don't get there own way.

More interesting that other countries with a history of standing up to Germany are letting them.


The Greek shambles isn't over, just a question of how quickly they burn through the emergency funding.