Give us a fracking break!

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hidetheelephants

24,286 posts

193 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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jmorgan said:
Despondent cynical gene on overload this morning. I suspect a Russian company will get it all and then drill a hole through the bottom of the UK and we will sink.
laugh Perhaps Vlad will feel his oats and annex us after the independence vote! hehe

longshot

3,286 posts

198 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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One of the incentives that keeps being mentions with fracking is that it will create between 10,000 and 70,000 new jobs.

Unless these new jobs are ring fenced for UK residents, it won't have an effect on the unemployment figures but I can't see our Government doing that.

Interestingly, I discovered today that fracking is banned in France.
Does anyone know the facts behind this?


Art0ir

9,401 posts

170 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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longshot said:
One of the incentives that keeps being mentions with fracking is that it will create between 10,000 and 70,000 new jobs.

Unless these new jobs are ring fenced for UK residents, it won't have an effect on the unemployment figures but I can't see our Government doing that.

Interestingly, I discovered today that fracking is banned in France.
Does anyone know the facts behind this?
Not sure they need it given their propensity for nuclear?

jurbie

2,343 posts

201 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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The French are against Fracking because having invested heavily in nuclear over the past couple of decades the last thing they want is the rest of Europe finding a cheap source of fuel meaning nobody will want to buy French electricity.

The French ban and negativity towards Fracking is entirely about protecting their investment, something Caroline Lucas and the Greens never seems to mention when they hold the French up as a beacon of environmental responsibility. I often wonder how many Green Party supporters are aware that there are several French nuclear reactors including the largest in Western Europe, within a large radioactive clouds distance of their constituency?

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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jurbie said:
The French are against Fracking because having invested heavily in nuclear over the past couple of decades the last thing they want is the rest of Europe finding a cheap source of fuel meaning nobody will want to buy French electricity.

The French ban and negativity towards Fracking is entirely about protecting their investment, something Caroline Lucas and the Greens never seems to mention when they hold the French up as a beacon of environmental responsibility. I often wonder how many Green Party supporters are aware that there are several French nuclear reactors including the largest in Western Europe, within a large radioactive clouds distance of their constituency?
Probably the same amount that realize that the French and British National Grids are connected together and they are hooked up to a grid, that is, in part atleast, powered by newkleer energy.

zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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I'm all for it so long as fracking doesn't take place within 10 miles of where I live.
If more people were like-minded then the UK wouldn't face the current energy crisis.
It should really be confined to the North of England & perhaps Suffolk, where people care much less about appearances.
Also, once fracking starts you can pretty much guarantee that the price of petrol will plummet, so it's all good! smile

s2art

18,937 posts

253 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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zygalski said:
I'm all for it so long as fracking doesn't take place within 10 miles of where I live.
Why 10 miles? Does it matter where its done as long as it doesnt inconvenience you particularly?

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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zygalski said:
I'm all for it so long as fracking doesn't take place within 10 miles of where I live.
If more people were like-minded then the UK wouldn't face the current energy crisis.
It should really be confined to the North of England & perhaps Suffolk, where people care much less about appearances.
Also, once fracking starts you can pretty much guarantee that the price of petrol will plummet, so it's all good! smile
We're talking about a well head, not open-cast mining.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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zygalski said:
I'm all for it so long as fracking doesn't take place within 10 miles of where I live.
If more people were like-minded then the UK wouldn't face the current energy crisis.
If everybody was like minded and fracking could only take place at least 10 miles from where they live - there wouldn't be many places to drill.

I can't think of anywhere perhaps except the northern highlands of Scotland where you could place a fracking site and have nobody living within a 10 mile radius - problem is - there is little to no shale gas in the northern highlands.

mcdjl

5,446 posts

195 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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zygalski said:
I'm all for it so long as fracking doesn't take place within 10 miles of where I live.
If more people were like-minded then the UK wouldn't face the current energy crisis.
It should really be confined to the North of England & perhaps Suffolk, where people care much less about appearances.
Also, once fracking starts you can pretty much guarantee that the price of petrol will plummet, so it's all good! smile
If everyone was as like minded as you there wouldn't be any fracking within 10 miles of the UK coast line.

longshot

3,286 posts

198 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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I was hoping they would frack near the coasts of the country so when the ground colapses, it would be as far to the seaside.

jshell

11,006 posts

205 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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zygalski said:
Also, once fracking starts you can pretty much guarantee that the price of petrol will plummet, so it's all good! smile
Please explain your reasoning...

Prawnboy

1,326 posts

147 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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jshell said:
zygalski said:
Also, once fracking starts you can pretty much guarantee that the price of petrol will plummet, so it's all good! smile
Please explain your reasoning...
this confuses me also. unless your getting you Americanisms confused.

motco

15,945 posts

246 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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I happened to be driving when 'Call You and Yours' was on this lunchtime on Radio 4. I shall reserve judgement until others have heard it except to say I am appalled at the brainwashing of GCSE pupils.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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motco said:
I happened to be driving when 'Call You and Yours' was on this lunchtime on Radio 4. I shall reserve judgement until others have heard it except to say I am appalled at the brainwashing of GCSE pupils.
They still teaching RE in schools then? biggrin

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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motco said:
I happened to be driving when 'Call You and Yours' was on this lunchtime on Radio 4. I shall reserve judgement until others have heard it except to say I am appalled at the brainwashing of GCSE pupils.
Nothing scares a politician more than an educated populace.

BoRED S2upid

19,692 posts

240 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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London424 said:
Reducing tax from 62% to 30% doesn't sound too bad to me.

I'd rather 30% of profit, rather than subsidising green energy projects. In turn, you would expect energy bills to go down as well.
Who expects energy prices to go down?

They could find huge reserves right under our feet tonnes of the stuff it won't change the price it will just make them more money!

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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zygalski said:
I'm all for it so long as fracking doesn't take place within 10 miles of where I live.
If more people were like-minded then the UK wouldn't face the current energy crisis.
I'm of a similar view

But replace 10 miles with 100 meters

Providing they give me a hotel for the duration of the frack job which is a noisy affair due to the few thousand horsepower pumps they use.

I don't fancy trying to sleep with half a dozen V12s screaming away at full throttle

Once the well is running pah couldn't give a fook

And i say this as someone with a private water well


McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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Guam said:
McWigglebum4th said:
I don't fancy trying to sleep with half a dozen V12s screaming away at full throttle
Pah and you call yourself a Pistonheader? pish man get yourself to a 24 hour race series and toughen up smile
They aren't diesels



Oh wait

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

247 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:
And i say this as someone with a private water well
Wooooo.... get you! Very hanky-up-cuff. wink


Seriously, I completely agree your sentiments, I'd love to see it here in te South Downs National Park. I've been told fracking would result in open pits of poisonous fluids evaporating into the air... does anyone seriously believe the environmental legislation in the county would ever allow such a thing?

And we're told they'll be up to 600 poisons and chemicals used in the process. What the fuch is "up to" supposed mean? I'd want to know exactly how many and what they are, my guess is it's probably not more than 6 and they're all relatively harmless.

PS I would tend to ignore Zygalski, he's little more than a troll IIRC.