Give us a fracking break!

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chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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smifffymoto said:
I watched a programme about fracking on PBS America(an obscure satellite channel).I came to conclusion that I wouldn't want it in my back yard,or yours.
Not enough is known about the long term effects of the emissions from compression plant etc.
yeah, but, where did the funding come from for making that programme, where do the makers stand politically etc.?

Perhaps the 'raison d'être' of the programme was to ensure that people like you are suitably deterred by the fracking process....

You never know...

Chlamydia

1,082 posts

128 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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chris watton said:
smifffymoto said:
I watched a programme about fracking on PBS America(an obscure satellite channel).I came to conclusion that I wouldn't want it in my back yard,or yours.
Not enough is known about the long term effects of the emissions from compression plant etc.
yeah, but, where did the funding come from for making that programme, where do the makers stand politically etc.?

Perhaps the 'raison d'être' of the programme was to ensure that people like you are suitably deterred by the fracking process....

You never know...
Quite. Watch Fracknation for the other view, especially if the documentary you watched was Gasland.

Oakey

27,593 posts

217 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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Isn't PBS a channel where any tom, dick and fruitloop can broadcast a show?

Olf

11,974 posts

219 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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smifffymoto said:
I watched a programme about fracking on PBS America(an obscure satellite channel).I came to conclusion that I wouldn't want it in my back yard,or yours.
Not enough is known about the long term effects of the emissions from compression plant etc.
You're having a tin bath right? Emissions from compression plant? You mean like the diesel driven engines that drive the compressors that are identical to all other Diesel engines or do you mean has engines that use natural gas like your home boiler?

A seriously. Pick an issue, make sure you know nothing about it and then let rip.

Edited by Olf on Saturday 16th August 21:43

turbobloke

104,023 posts

261 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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Olf said:
Pick an issue, make sure you know nothing about it and then let rip.
See under 'PBS'.

There's sooooo much BS on fracking out there.

mondeoman

11,430 posts

267 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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PBS = Public Bull st

mondeoman

11,430 posts

267 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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pcvdriver said:
I like fast cars ...I also like clean, unadulterated drinking water. Does that mean I have to choose between one or the other? Don't be a tt!!!
No, just dont ever drink tap water or bottled water.

turbobloke

104,023 posts

261 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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mondeoman said:
pcvdriver said:
I like fast cars ...I also like clean, unadulterated drinking water. Does that mean I have to choose between one or the other? Don't be a tt!!!
No, just dont ever drink tap water or bottled water.
But feel free to believe the baseless propaganda around fracking!

Maybe pcvdriver missed the info from America where EPA investigations into claims of aquifer contamination from fracking found no evidence and were closed down, or the geological reports which put such wild claims into perspective.

Obviously it's not necessary to choose between fast cars and clean drinking water, both are available but obtaining decent quality comes with a cost in both cases. Merely adequate is cheaper.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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First fracking = 1947

So it is impossible for any methane to turn up in ground water before 1947


So a well dug in 1910 can't possible have methane in the water then

can it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkDnP40sCPM

http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM8XQ8_The_Famo...


But PCV is a scotnat who don't deal well with facts

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

248 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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smifffymoto said:
I watched a programme about fracking on PBS America(an obscure satellite channel).I came to conclusion that I wouldn't want it in my back yard,or yours.
Not enough is known about the long term effects of the emissions from compression plant etc.
What on earth are you talking about? Emissions from a normal commercial diesel engine? Have a missed something important here?

kingofdbrits

622 posts

194 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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smifffymoto said:
I watched a programme about fracking on PBS America(an obscure satellite channel).I came to conclusion that I wouldn't want it in my back yard,or yours.
Not enough is known about the long term effects of the emissions from compression plant etc.
I caught a few minutes of this programme too, the bit i saw was interviews with locals campaigning against fracking, they clearly didn't understand what fracking is all about, they were making rediculous comments on damaging the environment and the damage to local air quality of the operating well head. One local now only drinks bottled water incase her mains water is polluted. Bonkers.

The bit i did agree with them about was the 1000 HGV movements needed to drill a rig driving through a small town, trashing roads without repairing them, then some locals had to look out their window on, what was a field in the middle of a housing estate, to a completed well. Could have at least put a building shell over it so it blended with the surrounding houses. You'd have never known it was even there then.

I do imagine a drilling rig 100 metres from your front door for a month wasn't too pleasant either.

I turned over after about 10 mins as i decided the programme was bullplop.

turbobloke

104,023 posts

261 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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kingofdbrits said:
smifffymoto said:
I watched a programme about fracking on PBS America(an obscure satellite channel).I came to conclusion that I wouldn't want it in my back yard,or yours.
Not enough is known about the long term effects of the emissions from compression plant etc.
I caught a few minutes of this programme too, the bit i saw was interviews with locals campaigning against fracking, they clearly didn't understand what fracking is all about, they were making rediculous comments on damaging the environment and the damage to local air quality of the operating well head. One local now only drinks bottled water incase her mains water is polluted. Bonkers.
yes

Documentary coverage said:
In the documentary, testing was completed on seven brands of bottled water by two independent testing labs. Their tests determined the presence of benzene as well as other cancer-causing agents in the test samples.
kingofdbrits said:
I turned over after about 10 mins as i decided the programme was bullplop.
There's a lot of it about in terms of fracking myths.

hidetheelephants

24,472 posts

194 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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turbobloke said:
There's time to develop controlled fusion. The only barriers are political incompetence and general public gullibility when it comes to green information pollution.
Fusion is all well and good if you're a glowing sphere in the centre of the solar system, but until some budding Tony Stark comes up with a practical system we'd be better off spending the money refining fission technology, which is already practical and safe but could benefit greatly from further research to reduce costs and waste production.

turbobloke

104,023 posts

261 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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hidetheelephants said:
turbobloke said:
There's time to develop controlled fusion. The only barriers are political incompetence and general public gullibility when it comes to green information pollution.
Fusion is all well and good if you're a glowing sphere in the centre of the solar system, but until some budding Tony Stark comes up with a practical system we'd be better off spending the money refining fission technology, which is already practical and safe but could benefit greatly from further research to reduce costs and waste production.
Given the relatively low priority and spend on fusion research, compared to the potential benefits, people in certain key positions seem to agree with you. Also the consequences of controlled fusion being achieved by a single country or alliance are worthy of serious consideration!

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

263 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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mondeoman said:
pcvdriver said:
I like fast cars ...I also like clean, unadulterated drinking water. Does that mean I have to choose between one or the other? Don't be a tt!!!
No, just dont ever drink tap water or bottled water.
Very subtle biglaugh

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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I hunted down fracknation on youtube

one wonderful quote from a cancer expert

When asked his thoughts on the claims that fracking fluid has over 500 chemicals in it his reply was

"Well so does a cup of tea"

Oakey

27,593 posts

217 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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Apparently the anti-frackers have superglued themselves to DEFRA HQ.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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Oakey said:
Apparently the anti-frackers have superglued themselves to DEFRA HQ.
Are we allowed to draw on them?

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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They cause traffic problems in Swansea as well blocking a site access on an already problematic route into Swansea. One soap dodger chained himself up a scaffold tripod someone built. Solution is ever so simple.

Negative Creep

24,990 posts

228 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:
Oakey said:
Apparently the anti-frackers have superglued themselves to DEFRA HQ.
Are we allowed to draw on them?
Wouldn't it be hilarious if everyone carried on working and pretending they just weren't there?