Pub bans mililtary personnel

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Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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The Spruce goose said:
3/4 of the st posted on here is nonsense, and probably reflects on the rest of the net.
IMO that's excessively negative. I'd go with the usual rough 80/20 rule. 80% good stuff on PH.

talkssense

1,337 posts

203 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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Some of the comments on their facebook page are frightening. Threats against the staff etc.

I despair at the fact that people will just share and post any old crap without any attempt to see if its genuine.

I feel really sorry for the landlords and their staff who are now subject to abuse from a load of total tossers who aren't smart enough to read the other comments on the page and figure out that the whole things was made up, but instead spread it round their groups of tosser friends.

slippery

14,093 posts

240 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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That was no doubt the intention of whoever started the rumour. I hope they get tracked down and prosecuted.

Fluid

1,729 posts

186 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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Brigand said:
I've heard of pubs banning troops entering whilst in uniform, (one of the pubs at Brize Norton, a major airbase, had this rule placed on the front door, but the pub was still the main place for the lads to go) but to ban troops altogether seems rather silly.

Unless they intend to profile people as they come in, looking for the short hair and sidies no lower than the middle of the ear, how do they intend to keep the squaddies out if they pitch up in civvies?

The story is probably total fiction, created by some BNP or similar sympathiser designed to create some tension in the area.

Edited by Brigand on Saturday 17th August 01:24
No military personnel should be in a pub in uniform, it's against Queens Regulations.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

189 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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Fluid said:
Brigand said:
I've heard of pubs banning troops entering whilst in uniform, (one of the pubs at Brize Norton, a major airbase, had this rule placed on the front door, but the pub was still the main place for the lads to go) but to ban troops altogether seems rather silly.

Unless they intend to profile people as they come in, looking for the short hair and sidies no lower than the middle of the ear, how do they intend to keep the squaddies out if they pitch up in civvies?

The story is probably total fiction, created by some BNP or similar sympathiser designed to create some tension in the area.

Edited by Brigand on Saturday 17th August 01:24
No military personnel should be in a pub in uniform, it's against Queens Regulations.
That is something, has anyone asked any military people about this? I was under the impression that walking around in your work gear whilst not at work was a bit of a faux pas.

boyse7en

6,738 posts

166 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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The Spruce goose said:
Really? what world do you live in. it happens all the time.

3/4 of the st posted on here is nonsense, and probably reflects on the rest of the net.
I live in a world where this happens far too often, and all most people can do about is say "st happens".

It's not that I'm surprised by the fact that some bored little scrote has invented and published a deliberately provocative story online to try an push some agenda of his, nor that he has tried to make the story more authentic by using the names and pictures of some completely innocent people. It's the fact that there is little that can be done about it, and that too many people are simply prepared to believe the made-up tale even when it is pointed out clearly to them that it is patently bullst.

I realise that some of what is typed on PH is complete cobblers too, but someone arguing the toss about how their BMW135 is faster than a Ferrari is soon forgotten. The next frothing-at-the-mouth 'patriot' who reads that story may think the best way to show their displeasure is a brick through the window, or clobbering the owner of the pub.

iphonedyou

9,255 posts

158 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
Can anyone tell me what 'versified' means?
You genuinely didn't understand he meant verified?

There's an argument for better education.

iphonedyou

9,255 posts

158 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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TheEnd said:
That is something, has anyone asked any military people about this? I was under the impression that walking around in your work gear whilst not at work was a bit of a faux pas.
I see it regularly in London. Being from Belfast, it's a nice change to see the boys walking about in uniform.

I know that doesn't answer your question , but I'm just saying it's fairly common here. smile

Silver

4,372 posts

227 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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Although the Bale things is clearly cobblers, it's not dissimilar to Muslim scaremongering stories published by tabloids. Remember the 'Muslim toilets outrage'? That's obviously a more extreme case, but many stories about Muslims in the likes of the Mail/Express etc are very clearly written in a way designed to provoke fear and anger among the white British.

It surprises me how often people are prepared to take this rubbish at face value but the amount of 'debate' on here about Muslims goes to show that it seems to sink in.


iphonedyou

9,255 posts

158 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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Silver said:
Although the Bale things is clearly cobblers, it's not dissimilar to Muslim scaremongering stories published by tabloids. Remember the 'Muslim toilets outrage'? That's obviously a more extreme case, but many stories about Muslims in the likes of the Mail/Express etc are very clearly written in a way designed to provoke fear and anger among the white British.

It surprises me how often people are prepared to take this rubbish at face value but the amount of 'debate' on here about Muslims goes to show that it seems to sink in.
Debate does not mean we're all taking rubbish at face value, though. To say it does is only to discourage debate, and that's been part of the problem.

Burrow01

1,813 posts

193 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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Fluid said:
No military personnel should be in a pub in uniform, it's against Queens Regulations.
Which regulation is it?

Countdown

39,967 posts

197 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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Silver said:
Although the Bale things is clearly cobblers, it's not dissimilar to Muslim scaremongering stories published by tabloids. Remember the 'Muslim toilets outrage'? That's obviously a more extreme case, but many stories about Muslims in the likes of the Mail/Express etc are very clearly written in a way designed to provoke fear and anger among the white British.

It surprises me how often people are prepared to take this rubbish at face value but the amount of 'debate' on here about Muslims goes to show that it seems to sink in.
Some people accept it at face value because it fits in with their prejudices. Others will realise its bks but still disseminate it because it helps their agenda.

airbrakes

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10,401 posts

161 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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OK, I hold my hands up and admit I got it wrong by not checking more thoroughly first. it was linked on facebook by a mate of mine who is an ex-squaddie and normally not renowned for posting made up drivel

Silver

4,372 posts

227 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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iphonedyou said:
Debate does not mean we're all taking rubbish at face value, though. To say it does is only to discourage debate, and that's been part of the problem.
I used 'debate' as a kind of umbrella term for some of the more fervent anti stuff based on misinformation or prejudiced opinions - probably should have made that clearer. Debate is good. smile

slippery

14,093 posts

240 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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airbrakes said:
OK, I hold my hands up and admit I got it wrong by not checking more thoroughly first. it was linked on facebook by a mate of mine who is an ex-squaddie and normally not renowned for posting made up drivel
Don't worry. The people who contributed to the thread without reading its content made themselves look much dafter than you! smile

Silver

4,372 posts

227 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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Countdown said:
Some people accept it at face value because it fits in with their prejudices. Others will realise its bks but still disseminate it because it helps their agenda.
Yes, absolutely this.

Fluid

1,729 posts

186 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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Burrow01 said:
Fluid said:
No military personnel should be in a pub in uniform, it's against Queens Regulations.
Which regulation is it?
Whoops, that should be AP1358 not QR's.

Just looked at your profile, are you an RAF Officer?

to3m

1,226 posts

171 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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wolves_wanderer said:
Silver said:
There does seem to be a particular appetite on here for inflammatory stories about Muslims.
It is because they only eat at night. You know what else only eats at night? fking vampires is what
I think the discriminating attribute of vampires is usually taken to be the drinking of blood, rather than simply eating at night. Additionally, most of the year, Muslims eat at any time of day. And, with many Muslims being brown-skinned, I don't think sunlight is a major issue for them (well - it's certainly not going to make them go up in flames). So I'm not really sure the comparison is apt.

What you really need to do, if you're looking for vampires, is to find a religion that actively celebrates the drinking of blood, one that has many adherents among paler-looking people. Now I'm no expert on religion, but if you can think it, somebody will be doing it - it's a bit like Internet Rule 34 in that respect - so there's probably one, somewhere. It would be a major feature of their ritual, I'm sure. They'll probably just be doing what their god told them - but is that an excuse? Minority cult, or global conspiracy with ties to the highest levels of world governments? Who knows!

If I get some free time tomorrow I might spend some time doing some research on this interesting question!

tubbystu

3,846 posts

261 months

Sunday 18th August 2013
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slippery said:
The most enlightening thing about this is just how many people contribute to threads on here without reading them first. Quite incredible.
yes And they don't seem to consider it necessary, or polite even, to read the complete thread before weighing in with their hearty and plainly wrong opinion.

Which if they had been bothered to properly read the thread, they would know was all-to-cock.

tubbystu

3,846 posts

261 months

Sunday 18th August 2013
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to3m said:
If I get some free time tomorrow I might spend some time doing some research on this interesting question!
Before or after Mass ? wink
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