Jeremy Paxman vs Russell Brand
Discussion
Mark Benson said:
While living in LA, in a $2.5m house.
I don't begrudge him his success, but I find his stance on redistribution and the elite 1% rather at odds with the situation he himself exists in. Moaning about wrecking the planet whilst living a lavish celebrity lifestyle seems a tad hypocritical to me. At the risk of appearing a fanboy, if I want to listen to a comedian making me laugh whilst also making me think, I'll stick to later period Bill Hicks thanks.
Edited by hornet on Thursday 24th October 20:51
DJRC said:
Are you insane? Have you got any idea of the bloodshed involved in the French and Bolshevik revolutions???
Not just that but the French revolution plunged Europe into civil war for 25 yrs!!! The Bolshevik revolution directly empowered a regime which killed more of its own people within 50 yrs than the entire reign of the Tsars put together!!!
And these are your templates???????????????????????????
Son, whichever barracade you find yourself on I can gaurantee Ill be on the other side. Not because of any ethical notions of being "right", but it sure as f
k will be safer!
Mattnun doesn't do history or facts. Too much effort.Not just that but the French revolution plunged Europe into civil war for 25 yrs!!! The Bolshevik revolution directly empowered a regime which killed more of its own people within 50 yrs than the entire reign of the Tsars put together!!!
And these are your templates???????????????????????????
Son, whichever barracade you find yourself on I can gaurantee Ill be on the other side. Not because of any ethical notions of being "right", but it sure as f
k will be safer!DJRC said:
Son, whichever barracade you find yourself on I can gaurantee Ill be on the other side. Not because of any ethical notions of being "right", but it sure as fk will be safer!
LOL my thoughts exactlyk will be safer!http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detail...
It always makes me laugh when one of the the 1% (as he put it) starts slagging off the 1%.
Banging on about "big corp" er hello who does he think pays his bills? If he hates the system so much stop talking the money.
He came across as a cock and an unfunny one at that.
By all means be rich, be successful, party the night away but please don't try and pretend you want a revolution.
Banging on about "big corp" er hello who does he think pays his bills? If he hates the system so much stop talking the money.
He came across as a cock and an unfunny one at that.
By all means be rich, be successful, party the night away but please don't try and pretend you want a revolution.
BJG1 said:
I don't think he's an idiot, not by a long shot. His issues with our current form of governance are well-founded and I don't think not having a fully-fledged idea of what to replace it with is too big a deal. I don't really agree with a lot of what he says but I'd rather people with his passion and will for change were in charge than the current jerk-circle of Etonian prats.
Christ alive! Are you mad? Can you actually imagine what this country would be like if 'governed' (sic) by trend-hound tts like him rather than your Etonian prats?You might enviously despise and snidely demean them but at least the wheels keep turning. However bad things are and however much room for improvement there is at least we have a society that keeps most safe and an economy that provides the basic needs of life as a minimum for all (except those who piss their chances away), with him in charge the country would dissolve into anarchy pronto.
mattnunn said:
Finally an explanation as to why every Daily Mail article about anyone includes an outline survey and valuation of their property portfolio, because without that information we just don't know whether to take their opinions seriously or not.
Maybe not? I really don't need to know what your house cost to know how to take your missives...Someone should give him a good slap around the face until he repeats the mantra.
"You get the government you deserve"
We govern by consent and so as such the government actually reflects broadly the views of the people. Attempting radical change is only possible by compelling people to do things which results in crushing unfairness and authoritarian rule.
His views do not appear to be based on anything other than superficial prejudices such as hating the conservatives or the rich. Get an actual well though out evidenced based view point, then publise it and it will eventually become what people want and therefore what the government will actually do, Russell appears to have missed the first important step.
David Mitchell on the other hand is actually a comedian who might have a decent idea about real politics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zoz5EuIF_y8
"You get the government you deserve"
We govern by consent and so as such the government actually reflects broadly the views of the people. Attempting radical change is only possible by compelling people to do things which results in crushing unfairness and authoritarian rule.
His views do not appear to be based on anything other than superficial prejudices such as hating the conservatives or the rich. Get an actual well though out evidenced based view point, then publise it and it will eventually become what people want and therefore what the government will actually do, Russell appears to have missed the first important step.
David Mitchell on the other hand is actually a comedian who might have a decent idea about real politics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zoz5EuIF_y8
MrMagoo said:
Seriously?That's a rewrite and he should get it to the teacher before tomorrow break.
MrMagoo said:
He's not even the full ticket - only a medium in which the actual bacteria that does all the work to become the globule of smeg that he is.Obviously not getting enough attention, so this is the perfect vehicle for him to vocalise & please his latest employers.
I despise people like this, who have no concept of what hard work is actually like whilst constantly telling the same how it is & what they should all be doing.
Work to his type is like a very cold winter to bacteria - it kills them off.
If Brand is now aspiration to people, heaven help us.
As for his wit - he said pube. Hilarious.
AnonSpoilSport said:
You appear to be jealous of their education. Or was it just a cheap shot?
I'm not jealous of their education - I'm privately educated myself (albeit not at a boarding school). I just don't think it's healthy to have all of our power concentrated into such a small circle of people who almost all attended the same schools and followed the same career paths into politics.Smiler. said:
MrMagoo said:
He's not even the full ticket...Apparently we no longer have the luxury of tradition (says Brand fresh from the big-word-mixer) yet we have the luxury of verbal diarrhoea from self-promoting celebs. That makes perfect sense.
BJG1 said:
I'm not jealous of their education - I'm privately educated myself (albeit not at a boarding school). I just don't think it's healthy to have all of our power concentrated into such a small circle of people who almost all attended the same schools and followed the same career paths into politics.
Sadly that's kind of the way the world works. Every civilisation I can think of, from the Greeks all the way through the Middle Ages to Communism/Capitalism, has been ruled by an elite few, and this can be seen all over the natural world too. I'm not saying Capitalism is perfect, far from it. However I'm struggling to see any better suggestions at this point in time....
bodhi said:
Sadly that's kind of the way the world works. Every civilisation I can think of, from the Greeks all the way through the Middle Ages to Communism/Capitalism, has been ruled by an elite few, and this can be seen all over the natural world too.
I'm not saying Capitalism is perfect, far from it. However I'm struggling to see any better suggestions at this point in time....
I'm not worried about being run by a small number of people, I'm worried about being run by a small number of people who all went to the same school, university and followed the same career path.I'm not saying Capitalism is perfect, far from it. However I'm struggling to see any better suggestions at this point in time....
And before someone gives me that s
t about best school/best uni meaning best people take a look at how much more diverse the backgrounds of our most successful businessmen are. Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff