Yet another... recycling plant fire
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Not a fire, but other waste management transgressions. good to see some decent sentences dished-out: http://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/tw...
Digga said:
Not a fire, but other waste management transgressions. good to see some decent sentences dished-out: http://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/tw...
pretty trivial when you consider the costs involved with dealing with this though, and I am sure the prosecution costs were more than the fines...5+ years would seem more appropriate.
Scuffers said:
Digga said:
Not a fire, but other waste management transgressions. good to see some decent sentences dished-out: http://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/tw...
pretty trivial when you consider the costs involved with dealing with this though, and I am sure the prosecution costs were more than the fines...5+ years would seem more appropriate.
Digga said:
Scuffers said:
Digga said:
Not a fire, but other waste management transgressions. good to see some decent sentences dished-out: http://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/tw...
pretty trivial when you consider the costs involved with dealing with this though, and I am sure the prosecution costs were more than the fines...5+ years would seem more appropriate.
they crate a major mess with serious public health issues over a period of time to make money yet get a lower sentence than somebody caught speeding in a moment of madness?
Digga said:
IMHO, the penalties - correctly enforced - are sufficient to be a deenough. rrent. I may be wrong, but I'm not sure the Crown ever view "recovery of costs" as a basis for punishment.
At £100 a go they "recover" the costs of advising you that you were 5 mph over the speed limit surely enough. I believe the issue with tyre recycling is that their primary use has now been banned. In the past they would be chipped, then burnt as fuel in cement kilns, but since they have now been classified as a 'waste product' it is illegal to burn them - hence the huge increase in disposal costs.
I think you're all members of the tin foil hat brigade though, suggesting that these upstanding businesspeople are somehow deliberately causing these places to catch fire. Look at the rubbish disposal places in hot dry countries like India - they are constantly being combed for anything of value by chain-smoking locals trying to make a living, and they are ALWAYS catching fire.
Did you know the Iranian car tyre industry is almost entirely supported by replacements for spontaneously combusting tyres which caught fire when a cigarette end was carelessly dropped near a parked car?
I think you're all members of the tin foil hat brigade though, suggesting that these upstanding businesspeople are somehow deliberately causing these places to catch fire. Look at the rubbish disposal places in hot dry countries like India - they are constantly being combed for anything of value by chain-smoking locals trying to make a living, and they are ALWAYS catching fire.
Did you know the Iranian car tyre industry is almost entirely supported by replacements for spontaneously combusting tyres which caught fire when a cigarette end was carelessly dropped near a parked car?
Scuffers said:
Digga said:
Scuffers said:
Digga said:
Not a fire, but other waste management transgressions. good to see some decent sentences dished-out: http://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/tw...
pretty trivial when you consider the costs involved with dealing with this though, and I am sure the prosecution costs were more than the fines...5+ years would seem more appropriate.
they crate a major mess with serious public health issues over a period of time to make money yet get a lower sentence than somebody caught speeding in a moment of madness?
Magog said:
Well it would have cost £440,000 to dispose of the waste legitimately, so by any definition they are 'up'. Are the environment agency now removing the dumped waste?
I guess that even the unlawful methods used will have burned some diesel and cost a bit in labour, so my guess is that the fines imposed were deemed 'collectable' and that levying stiffer penalties would not (easily) generate more revenue for the authorities.I'm not condoning the law, but nonetheless, fines of that magnitude, along with custodial sentences must be deterrent, as long as they're being seen to be enforced.
Hoofy said:
AJS- said:
OCD
Or COD if if you put them in alphabetical order, as they should be.
Almost...Or COD if if you put them in alphabetical order, as they should be.
Glad you brought it up though as it's been bugging me ever since I posted it.
AJS- said:
You mean it should be CDO? I figured the order is correct, since it's still a disorder but it should be Compulsive-Obsessive rather than Obsessive-Compulsive if it was alphabetically correct.
Glad you brought it up though as it's been bugging me ever since I posted it.
Oh no...Glad you brought it up though as it's been bugging me ever since I posted it.
These are a fire engineering challenge, we make a system for protection of the equipment and conveyors which uses very little water but the sites dont want to pay the uplift over a sprinkler.
Inthis scenario a sprinkler isnt very effective (surface wetting is very old and ineefective technology) and causes a lot of fire effluent water run off which causes big problems on site.
Inthis scenario a sprinkler isnt very effective (surface wetting is very old and ineefective technology) and causes a lot of fire effluent water run off which causes big problems on site.
Don't forget us southerners! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-2...
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