Yet another... recycling plant fire

[wiggy001]

Mr GrimNasty said:

With the possible exception of metals, and especially aluminium, it isn't financially or ecologically worth recycling anything, it never has been. In fact it is positively wasteful. It's just about ideology, control, and taxation.

Any links to back up this view? Genuine question as I've often wondered about the cost/benefit analysis of recycling.

[Puggit]

Pattern of recylcing centres setting up and going bust

[Puggit]

Someone has just gifted me 2 years of BA silver - so I love BA

[matchmaker]

A bit different...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-cent...

BBC said:

An Alloa-based waste recycling company has been given a £345,558 confiscation order, the largest for environmental offences in Scotland.

Oran Environmental Solutions (OES) Ltd was also fined £12,000 for separate waste-related offences.

The firm failed to remove waste materials from its Kilbagie Mill site and did not carry out adequate pest control measures at the facility.

It also stored controlled waste on land not covered by a licence.

[Digga]

matchmaker said:

A bit different...

Whilst we're off on the tangent of dodgy waste firms not necessarily involving combustion: http://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/su...

[Silent1]

Puggit said:

Someone has just gifted me 2 years of BA silver - so I love BA

[saaby93]

Recycling centre Leeds up for architects award - timber frame
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35691276

[andy43]

Digga said:

matchmaker said:

A bit different...

Whilst we're off on the tangent of dodgy waste firms not necessarily involving combustion: http://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/su...

And that is why I would never even consider using something so supposedly green and Eco-loopy as recycled hardcore - could contain asbestos and Christ knows what else.

[Europa1]

saaby93 said:

Recycling centre Leeds up for architects award - timber frame
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35691276

Although it's quite monolithic, I like it - at least they tried! In Cambridgeshire they just built a big shed. Which didn't work for about a year. That place in Leeds has a slight whiff of Bond baddie's lair about it.

[dandarez]

And on and on it goes...

http://www.itv.com/news/central/2016-03-29/saltley...

[cossy400]

dandarez said:

And on and on it goes...

http://www.itv.com/news/central/2016-03-29/saltley...

Was just coming to post this,800 tonnes.

Some cash saved there now as the insurance will pick up the bill to clear it all.

And after just watching the news its a good one this, as there is 2 massive piles of waste scrap metal and plastic (looks like cars to me) But "both" piles are well alight.

Edited by cossy400 on Tuesday 29th March 18:35

[hidetheelephants]

wiggy001 said:

Mr GrimNasty said:

With the possible exception of metals, and especially aluminium, it isn't financially or ecologically worth recycling anything, it never has been. In fact it is positively wasteful. It's just about ideology, control, and taxation.

Any links to back up this view? Genuine question as I've often wondered about the cost/benefit analysis of recycling.

Many recycling processes need more energy than producing from raw materials and in the UK and the west generally we've had the brainwave of making energy more expensive on the mistaken basis that it's good for the environment. Unsurprisingly a lot of recycling work(and production from raw materials for that matter) is offshored to places where they don't have stupid energy taxes.

[Willy Nilly]

hidetheelephants said:

wiggy001 said:

Mr GrimNasty said:

With the possible exception of metals, and especially aluminium, it isn't financially or ecologically worth recycling anything, it never has been. In fact it is positively wasteful. It's just about ideology, control, and taxation.

Any links to back up this view? Genuine question as I've often wondered about the cost/benefit analysis of recycling.

Many recycling processes need more energy than producing from raw materials and in the UK and the west generally we've had the brainwave of making energy more expensive on the mistaken basis that it's good for the environment. Unsurprisingly a lot of recycling work(and production from raw materials for that matter) is offshored to places where they don't have stupid energy taxes.

we can't go on indefinitely chucking things we don't need any more in holes in the ground.

[hidetheelephants]

I agree but the way we tax energy is antithetical to recycling, it's arse about face.

[55palfers]

Looks like a good blaze going on in Birmingham

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-35...

[saaby93]

cossy400 said:

dandarez said:

And on and on it goes...

http://www.itv.com/news/central/2016-03-29/saltley...

Was just coming to post this,800 tonnes.

Some cash saved there now as the insurance will pick up the bill to clear it all.

And after just watching the news its a good one this, as there is 2 massive piles of waste scrap metal and plastic (looks like cars to me) But "both" piles are well alight.

That aerial photo doesnt look like an architect designed recycling plant as in my previous post.
Doesnt it look more like some piles of rubbish ready to set fire?

[dazwalsh]

saaby93 said:

Recycling centre Leeds up for architects award - timber frame
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35691276

So THATS what that bloody building is for, during construction i thought it was a mosque!

[Beati Dogu]

Looks like a Zeppelin shed.

[Digga]

Beati Dogu said:

Looks like a Zeppelin shed.

Does doesn't it? IIRC, you can see this from the A1M can't you? pretty impressive structure actually. Rather pleasing.

[over_the_hill]

cossy400 said:

dandarez said:

And on and on it goes...

http://www.itv.com/news/central/2016-03-29/saltley...

Was just coming to post this,800 tonnes.

Some cash saved there now as the insurance will pick up the bill to clear it all.

And after just watching the news its a good one this, as there is 2 massive piles of waste scrap metal and plastic (looks like cars to me) But "both" piles are well alight.

Edited by cossy400 on Tuesday 29th March 18:35

I drive home out of Birmingham on the A38 and coming along from Spag. Junction last night it was a real pea souper with the smoke. The plant is a good half a mile away from the road.
There was still smoke and a strong burning smell this morning as well.

Given the amount of rain we had here over the weekend that lot must have been soaking so hardly likely to be a discarded fag-end.