Yet another... recycling plant fire
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A council one. Not sure how bad it was, though 6 appliances suggests it wasn't a small fire.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsscotland/fire-c...
Unsurprisingly it's closed today - https://twitter.com/GlasgowCC/status/1409392631214...
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsscotland/fire-c...
Unsurprisingly it's closed today - https://twitter.com/GlasgowCC/status/1409392631214...
Evanivitch said:
Is there another Caerphilly? 
Maybe we should append England to some of the others, just so people know.
Evanivitch said:
saaby93 said:
Is there another Caerphilly?
Maybe we should append England to some of the others, just so people know.
If you could please, I haven't a clue where Selby is.Maybe we should append England to some of the others, just so people know.
Edited by saaby93 on Thursday 2nd September 17:21
saaby93 said:
Evanivitch said:
saaby93 said:
Is there another Caerphilly?
Maybe we should append England to some of the others, just so people know.
If you could please, I haven't a clue where Selby is.Maybe we should append England to some of the others, just so people know.
Edited by saaby93 on Thursday 2nd September 17:21
Evanivitch said:
Is it Penallta Hengoed not far from Ystrad Mynach and 30 miles from Caerphillyhttps://www.google.com/maps/dir/Caerphilly/Penallt...
Penalla Industrial Estate - on satellite you can see the pile of rubbish = recycling material just north of the pin
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-58437665
They are spontaneously combusting in Wales it seems:
Blaenavon fire: Crews tackle large blaze at recycling plant:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-58453650
Blaenavon fire: Crews tackle large blaze at recycling plant:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-58453650
hyphen said:
Went to Cosford with my son yesterday and got caught up in that, the son said 'looks like another insurance job', had to remind him that there was probably no insurance!TRIUMPHBULLET said:
hyphen said:
Went to Cosford with my son yesterday and got caught up in that, the son said 'looks like another insurance job', had to remind him that there was probably no insurance!They've been paid to take the rubbish. It just needs getting rid without paying for disposal to errm a recycling plant
JMGS4 said:
Seems to be the "normal" way nowadays to get rid of any "troublesome" waste... happens too often for it to be accidental.... IMO
I'd hardly rate scrap metal as 'troublesome waste'. It's pretty consistently lucrative and will now be worth less in its burned out state.More often it's simply the idiocy of the general public.
At one of my yards a couple of weeks ago, someone decided it'd be ok to chuck a lithium-ion battery in their household black bag. Once these things ignite, they're pretty indifferent to fire extinguishers and will just burn super hot until they've used up the available fuel. We were lucky that a member of staff spotted it going off, so could evacuate the facility and then use a material handler to grab the offending item out of the waste pile and isolate it on the ground.
Had it gone off at night, it would have been a very different outcome, in spite of a comprehensive sprinkler system.
V8mate said:
JMGS4 said:
Seems to be the "normal" way nowadays to get rid of any "troublesome" waste... happens too often for it to be accidental.... IMO
I'd hardly rate scrap metal as 'troublesome waste'. It's pretty consistently lucrative and will now be worth less in its burned out state.More often it's simply the idiocy of the general public.
At one of my yards a couple of weeks ago, someone decided it'd be ok to chuck a lithium-ion battery in their household black bag. Once these things ignite, they're pretty indifferent to fire extinguishers and will just burn super hot until they've used up the available fuel. We were lucky that a member of staff spotted it going off, so could evacuate the facility and then use a material handler to grab the offending item out of the waste pile and isolate it on the ground.
Had it gone off at night, it would have been a very different outcome, in spite of a comprehensive sprinkler system.
And is any size of battery a hazard - i.e. a mobile phone battery, which I would consider to be small, could start these fires?
The one in your photo is a pack from a drill which isn't huge but would have quite a large capacity.
Andy 308GTB said:
Excuse my ignorance but what would trigger the ignition of one of these batteries?
And is any size of battery a hazard - i.e. a mobile phone battery, which I would consider to be small, could start these fires?
The one in your photo is a pack from a drill which isn't huge but would have quite a large capacity.
Isnt it usually where the cells are connected in parallel, one cells wears out quicker than the other so the good cell back powers the bad cell, makes it worse and it catches fire. Anyone taken apart one of those packs?And is any size of battery a hazard - i.e. a mobile phone battery, which I would consider to be small, could start these fires?
The one in your photo is a pack from a drill which isn't huge but would have quite a large capacity.
Andy 308GTB said:
Excuse my ignorance but what would trigger the ignition of one of these batteries?
And is any size of battery a hazard - i.e. a mobile phone battery, which I would consider to be small, could start these fires?
The one in your photo is a pack from a drill which isn't huge but would have quite a large capacity.
These rechargeable cells - yes, including modern mobile phone batteries - contain highly flammable electrolytes.And is any size of battery a hazard - i.e. a mobile phone battery, which I would consider to be small, could start these fires?
The one in your photo is a pack from a drill which isn't huge but would have quite a large capacity.
Anything that short circuits or in any way damages the cell leaves the electrolytes open to what is known as thermal runaway. Being crushed in the back of a dustcart, coming into contact with other liquids, being dumped and then scooped again for reloading, are all risk points.
Outside of the controlled battery environment, these will burn at c.200°C.
Andy 308GTB said:
Excuse my ignorance but what would trigger the ignition of one of these batteries?
And is any size of battery a hazard - i.e. a mobile phone battery, which I would consider to be small, could start these fires?
The one in your photo is a pack from a drill which isn't huge but would have quite a large capacity.
Anything with a lithium battery, and it's not exclusive, is a fire risk if short circuited, pierced or crushed.And is any size of battery a hazard - i.e. a mobile phone battery, which I would consider to be small, could start these fires?
The one in your photo is a pack from a drill which isn't huge but would have quite a large capacity.
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