Yet another... recycling plant fire

Yet another... recycling plant fire

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mcdjl

5,446 posts

195 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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This one in Nottingham happened mid afternoon!
https://westbridgfordwire.com/more-pictures-emerge...

Mouse Rat

1,812 posts

92 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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mcdjl said:
This one in Nottingham happened mid afternoon!
https://westbridgfordwire.com/more-pictures-emerge...
I could see this from Leicestershire on Monday. That dense it looked local!

mcdjl

5,446 posts

195 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2022
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Mouse Rat said:
I could see this from Leicestershire on Monday. That dense it looked local!
The first i knew about it was heavy traffic trying to get home!

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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Cliftonite

8,410 posts

138 months

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

83 months

Sunday 20th March 2022
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Has any recycling ever happened successfully in this country?
At least containers are so expensive now that waste isn't being shipped to some unsuspecting 3rd world country.
but I could be wrong.
As for every raging forest fire. They always seem to be the new trees planted as replacements. Dont the happy clappy tts that do it ever consider firebreaks?

Chrisgr31

13,478 posts

255 months

Monday 21st March 2022
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I have no doubt plenty of stuff does get recycled. The problem though appears to be that contracts to collect and process recycling are made assuming a price for the sorted items.

However the price that is paid for the sorted items is volatile and therefore the recycler may not get the price they wanted.

They then store it hoping prices go up - instead of which it catches fire and becomes the insurers problem!

speedchick

5,180 posts

222 months

Thursday 24th March 2022
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We had one yesterday that caused carnage on the surrounding roads
https://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww....

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Thursday 24th March 2022
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Chrisgr31 said:
I have no doubt plenty of stuff does get recycled. The problem though appears to be that contracts to collect and process recycling are made assuming a price for the sorted items.

However the price that is paid for the sorted items is volatile and therefore the recycler may not get the price they wanted.

They then store it hoping prices go up - instead of which it catches fire and becomes the insurers problem!
its been said before this is little to do with insurance.

If everything goes up in smoke it saves the cost of sorting it and shipping it somewhere.
The fire teams always seem to allow it to burn itself out rather than try to save it.

mac96

3,775 posts

143 months

Thursday 24th March 2022
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saaby93 said:
Chrisgr31 said:
I have no doubt plenty of stuff does get recycled. The problem though appears to be that contracts to collect and process recycling are made assuming a price for the sorted items.

However the price that is paid for the sorted items is volatile and therefore the recycler may not get the price they wanted.

They then store it hoping prices go up - instead of which it catches fire and becomes the insurers problem!
its been said before this is little to do with insurance.

If everything goes up in smoke it saves the cost of sorting it and shipping it somewhere.
The fire teams always seem to allow it to burn itself out rather than try to save it.
Indeed, and insurance for specialist recycling companies is getting very difficult to find!

Chrisgr31

13,478 posts

255 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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saaby93 said:
its been said before this is little to do with insurance.

If everything goes up in smoke it saves the cost of sorting it and shipping it somewhere.
The fire teams always seem to allow it to burn itself out rather than try to save it.
As I say it becomes the insurers problem, because once it has burnt the only place its going to is landfill. Problem is its now full of water so weighs a lot more so the landfill cost is much higher, made worse by the need to pay landfill tax which is based on weight.

Cost a client of mine over £500k to clear a site. In that case it hadn't caught fire although the only reason it hadnt caught fore was that it had been pumped full of water to stop it catching fire. The recycler paid noting as they went bust.

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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Chrisgr31 said:
As I say it becomes the insurers problem, because once it has burnt the only place its going to is landfill. Problem is its now full of water so weighs a lot more so the landfill cost is much higher, made worse by the need to pay landfill tax which is based on weight.

Cost a client of mine over £500k to clear a site. In that case it hadn't caught fire although the only reason it hadnt caught fore was that it had been pumped full of water to stop it catching fire. The recycler paid noting as they went bust.
If the waste was genuinely waterlogged, they could have claimed a water discount on LFT.

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

glazbagun

14,280 posts

197 months

Wednesday 8th June 2022
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Not a recycling plant, but still a fire. Fly tipper jailed for 11 months after dumping 50+ tons of tyres and assorted crap:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-wes...

poo at Paul's

14,147 posts

175 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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saaby93 said:
Good to see em giving it a good stoke with that grabber to get some air into it.

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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poo at Paul's said:
Good to see em giving it a good stoke with that grabber to get some air into it.
It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it.

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Thursday 9th June 2022
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poo at Paul's said:
saaby93 said:
Good to see em giving it a good stoke with that grabber to get some air into it.
Although the cab has a nice wooden shield in place - how susceptible are the hydarulic lines to the grab?

over_the_hill

3,188 posts

246 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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CoolHands

18,640 posts

195 months

Monday 13th June 2022
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Only 8000 tonnes lol

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Monday 20th June 2022
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Do any of these repeat?
Bagillt Flintshire
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-61863999