Padlocked Himself In A Sportsbag
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wasn't there a video of someone who locked himself in a bag the same as his, just to show it could be done?
I imagine it would be harder to get someone into a bag like that, than have them get themselves in
edit: http://www.businessinsider.com/uk-spy-locked-himse...
I imagine it would be harder to get someone into a bag like that, than have them get themselves in
edit: http://www.businessinsider.com/uk-spy-locked-himse...
Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Thursday 14th November 07:56
rohrl said:
I'm not saying he was definitely murdered but I am saying that the police don't really have a clue whether or not he was murdered and that MI6 went out of their way to be unhelpful in the early days of the investigation.
M16's unhelpfulness could have something to do with a Met officer selling the story to the press before informing M16.
I can totally see how he would have climbed into a bag on his own, unpicked a length of stitching, reached out through that hole to pull the zips up the final few inches, snapped the padlock shut, then carefully completed an invisible re-stitching repair on the seam of the bag that nobody was able to detect after he was found and the bag was closely examined.
You lot, you're so cynical.
You lot, you're so cynical.
It's telling that the BBC lead with the headline quoting the police suggesting it was probably an accident, but don't report until the third paragraph that the coroner recorded a death of unlawfull killing... Hmmmm
I suspect this was an inside job certainly not your average asphyxyw
k gone wrong.
I suspect this was an inside job certainly not your average asphyxyw
k gone wrong.mattnunn said:
It's telling that the BBC lead with the headline quoting the police suggesting it was probably an accident, but don't report until the third paragraph that the coroner recorded a death of unlawfull killing... Hmmmm
I suspect this was an inside job certainly not your average asphyxywk gone wrong.
Why would any of the security services kill somebody in a manner that immediately looks suspicious? This isn't Jonathan Creek.I suspect this was an inside job certainly not your average asphyxyw
k gone wrong.1) There was no evidence anyone had been in his flat or present at the time he died.
2) There was no evidence of a 'clean-up'
3) He had an interest in escapology
4) He had previously been found tied to his own bed in his underpants and had to be rescued by his landlady
5) The police were able to determine that it was possible to lock oneself inside said bag
6) The absence of his own DNA on the lock is meaningless. Had his DNA been recovered from the lock, that would be useful evidence. One cannot infer from it's absence that he did not touch it.
7) His computer usage suggested he had an interest in bondage
I would suggest two things
This looks to me like he placed himself in the bag, whether he meant to cause himself harm or not, I do not know. I am sure this is extremely distressing for his family, but whatever the reason for his demise it would be distressing for them.
If he didn't - well, whoever did so covered their tracks so well that you would have a hell of a job finding them or proving it.
2) There was no evidence of a 'clean-up'
3) He had an interest in escapology
4) He had previously been found tied to his own bed in his underpants and had to be rescued by his landlady
5) The police were able to determine that it was possible to lock oneself inside said bag
6) The absence of his own DNA on the lock is meaningless. Had his DNA been recovered from the lock, that would be useful evidence. One cannot infer from it's absence that he did not touch it.
7) His computer usage suggested he had an interest in bondage
I would suggest two things
This looks to me like he placed himself in the bag, whether he meant to cause himself harm or not, I do not know. I am sure this is extremely distressing for his family, but whatever the reason for his demise it would be distressing for them.
If he didn't - well, whoever did so covered their tracks so well that you would have a hell of a job finding them or proving it.
JB! said:
TheSnitch said:
1) There was no evidence anyone had been in his flat or present at the time he died.
If he didn't - well, whoever did so covered their tracks so well that you would have a hell of a job finding them or proving it.
IE a professional?If he didn't - well, whoever did so covered their tracks so well that you would have a hell of a job finding them or proving it.
I included it to demonstrate the futility, basically. It isn't that there is evidence that someone was there, and they just haven't been able to show who it was - all the evidence indicates that he was alone. If someone was clever enough to be able to do that, well forget it, you won't find them. It is however my opinion that you won't find them because they don't exist.
TheSnitch said:
CAPP0 said:
TheSnitch said:
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However, whilst I may have paraphrased your lengthy post, it is in fact certainly what you inferred.
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