Attend Islam class or be branded racist
Discussion
Mermaid said:
Do we embrace Islam or fight it spreading its influence?
Religion & strife go together well.
If the RE classes teach that these religions exist and the History classes teach that they all fight each other for supremacy, and do some damned nasty things to each other then hopefully the children will grow wise to religion.Religion & strife go together well.
If not, my kids will be getting supplementary lessons at home.
Mr_B said:
To show you how stupid it is with young adults, a story today tells how Universities have agreed on how men and women can be best segregated at lectures. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityedu...
That's not actually what's that's about, is it.Back on thread, the headmistress is an idiot.
The trip itself seems a perfectly sensible and useful day out.
The issue isn't that IMO, it's the tone of the letter i.e. the "Do what we say or we'll call your children racist" threat, and that's ignoring the fact that religion doesn't denote race.
We used to go on lots of school trips and admittedly I can't say I remember the letters exact contents but I'm pretty sure they didn't used to contain threats.
The issue isn't that IMO, it's the tone of the letter i.e. the "Do what we say or we'll call your children racist" threat, and that's ignoring the fact that religion doesn't denote race.
We used to go on lots of school trips and admittedly I can't say I remember the letters exact contents but I'm pretty sure they didn't used to contain threats.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: The trip itself seems a perfectly sensible and useful day out.
The issue isn't that IMO, it's the tone of the letter i.e. the "Do what we say or we'll call your children racist" threat, and that's ignoring the fact that religion doesn't denote race.
We used to go on lots of school trips and admittedly I can't say I remember the letters exact contents but I'm pretty sure they didn't used to contain threats.
Pretty much this. The issue isn't that IMO, it's the tone of the letter i.e. the "Do what we say or we'll call your children racist" threat, and that's ignoring the fact that religion doesn't denote race.
We used to go on lots of school trips and admittedly I can't say I remember the letters exact contents but I'm pretty sure they didn't used to contain threats.
VinceFox said:
rambo19 said:
Religion should not be taught in schools.
Bang on. I interview kids for FE and HE courses who have literacy and numeracy skills that are nothing short of fking WOEFUL. Until they sort that out, this st should be thrown out of the curriculum completely. Timewasting s.Whilst we're on school curriculum some of my golf mates are secondary maths teacher (in an excellent department by all accounts) and they have occasionally questioned the need for some of the more advanced maths prcesses being taught to some for whom more basic numeracy is a challenge.
Edited by standards on Saturday 23 November 11:37
steveT350C said:
VinceFox said:
rambo19 said:
Religion should not be taught in schools.
Bang on. I interview kids for FE and HE courses who have literacy and numeracy skills that are nothing short of fking WOEFUL. Until they sort that out, this st should be thrown out of the curriculum completely. Timewasting s.Trouble is, I don't trust anyone but myself to tell my kids the 'truth'.
And therein lies the problem.
As an atheist I think its outrageous that my kids have to get a formal formal qualification in fairy stories, in preference to a science.
He got an F so it was completely futile.
98elise said:
While I thing some knowledge is fine. I think it being a mandatory GCSE is a piss take. History, geography, sciences, languages, all optional. My son did not want to take RE yet was corced to, and due the the way structured he couldn't take physics.
As an atheist I think its outrageous that my kids have to get a formal formal qualification in fairy stories, in preference to a science.
He got an F so it was completely futile.
I'm almost certain the one subject you have the right NOT to study in school is RS/RE.As an atheist I think its outrageous that my kids have to get a formal formal qualification in fairy stories, in preference to a science.
He got an F so it was completely futile.
Which is one reason why the OP issue is controversial. My (limited) understanding is that parents can remove their child/young person from RS/RE or PART of it.
Certainly just after 9/11 the Local Authority had to accept youngsters being withdrawn from any teaching of Islam. No racism label threats made as I recall.
Religious teachings have no place in School.
It can be taught that they exist and are different but their beliefs should not be pressed towards any children.
Kids should eventually make up their own minds if "THEY CHOOSE" to believe in this nonsense.
The headteacher looks like an utter dribbling moron.
It can be taught that they exist and are different but their beliefs should not be pressed towards any children.
Kids should eventually make up their own minds if "THEY CHOOSE" to believe in this nonsense.
The headteacher looks like an utter dribbling moron.
AnonSpoilSport said:
Mr_B said:
Next week the kids have gender education field trip. Those not attending will be branded homophobic on their school records by the headmistressperson.
Surely?!Next week the kids have gender education field trip. Those not attending will be branded homophobic on their school records by the head
And as for the use of Comic Sans by the Headcase come typographer - chrise poor ol' Hermann Zapf must be spinning!
Edited by dandarez on Saturday 23 November 15:18
steveT350C said:
Agree-ish. learn the basics in Spanish, German, Mandarin, French etc.
It's not about being fluent in a language. The international language of business and science is English.
It's about respect. Simples!
Not entirely true, I'm afraid. I work extensively with Scandinavian languages, and Scandies are perfectly capable of communicating in English. But I translate many tenders, manuals, etc. that specify that documents have to be in the language of the country. It's not about being fluent in a language. The international language of business and science is English.
It's about respect. Simples!
Edited by steveT350C on Saturday 23 November 00:51
As for ditching foreign languages in schools - maybe a majority of people don't use the languages they learned at school, but some of us have based our careers on them!
It's very dangerous to assume everyone speaks English. I frequently see translations done by non-native speakers of English which are ambiguous, or occasionally very amusing or even completely wrong-end-of-the-stick wrong. And applications like Google Translate just muddy the waters still further.
Languages are important. Learning your own language is most important of all, yet how many English speakers know all about grammar, etc. in their own language?
SGirl said:
steveT350C said:
Agree-ish. learn the basics in Spanish, German, Mandarin, French etc.
It's not about being fluent in a language. The international language of business and science is English.
It's about respect. Simples!
Not entirely true, I'm afraid. I work extensively with Scandinavian languages, and Scandies are perfectly capable of communicating in English. But I translate many tenders, manuals, etc. that specify that documents have to be in the language of the country. It's not about being fluent in a language. The international language of business and science is English.
It's about respect. Simples!
Edited by steveT350C on Saturday 23 November 00:51
As for ditching foreign languages in schools - maybe a majority of people don't use the languages they learned at school, but some of us have based our careers on them!
It's very dangerous to assume everyone speaks English. I frequently see translations done by non-native speakers of English which are ambiguous, or occasionally very amusing or even completely wrong-end-of-the-stick wrong. And applications like Google Translate just muddy the waters still further.
Languages are important. Learning your own language is most important of all, yet how many English speakers know all about grammar, etc. in their own language?
standards said:
If there anywhere Comic Sans CAN be used it would be a primary school.
Edited by standards on Saturday 23 November 11:36
I disagree. It still looks utterly ridiculous. What sort of message was she trying to get across? "If you don't send your child on this trip you're racist, but calm down, I'm using this jaunty font so it must be OK"?
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