Scotland Helicopter Crash

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onyx39

11,123 posts

150 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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Someone on PPRUNE has just speculated that it is this:


huffysteve

78 posts

207 months

Friday 29th November 2013
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dandarez said:
If nobody is injured that will be a miraculous.

Witness said it was police copter spiraling down, rotors not going.
Apparently there is an helipad nearby for amb/police copters.
Helipad is a fair bit away from the crash site

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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onyx39 said:
Someone on PPRUNE has just speculated that it is this:

Is that the only one in scotland frown
wikipedia said:
On 17 February 2002 the three man crew of a Strathclyde police helicopter survived a crash in an 18 month old Eurocopter EC-135.


oobster

7,094 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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huffysteve said:
Helipad is a fair bit away from the crash site
Depends what you term a fair bit, if you look on Google earth the police helipad is just slightly further west, along the Broomielaw, just right next to where the Hydro is. In fact, there is a dark blue-and-yellow helicopter sitting at one of the helipads in the google earth picture.

fjord

2,143 posts

137 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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I hate to speculate at such a terrible time, but did some googling on the ec135 (which apparently isn't a great copter for being reliable).

In 2011 this one crashed, and witnesses described at the time, the engine sounded like it was backfiring, as heard tonight.
http://www.rotorpad.com/police-fire-ems/medical-he...

Eventually they confirmed the pilot ran out of fuel after miscalculations.
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/09/us/pilot-texting...

Maybe it just ran out of fuel somehow?

Lastly, I was looking at all the helicopter crashes in the north sea and around the country from oil-rigs and so forth, they all seem to be Eurocopters. Are eurocopters crap, or do they just have a monopoly over helicopter aviation, so that no other models or manufacturers are really used?

dxg

8,203 posts

260 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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oobster said:
huffysteve said:
Helipad is a fair bit away from the crash site
Depends what you term a fair bit, if you look on Google earth the police helipad is just slightly further west, along the Broomielaw, just right next to where the Hydro is. In fact, there is a dark blue-and-yellow helicopter sitting at one of the helipads in the google earth picture.
Or a few hundred feet in the opposite direction, he'd have been in open parkland...

Rollcage

11,327 posts

192 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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Sounds like it's landed on the roof with a bit of a thump and gone through a few seconds later, rather than smashing straight through.

ninja-lewis

4,241 posts

190 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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saaby93 said:
onyx39 said:
Someone on PPRUNE has just speculated that it is this:
Is that the only one in scotland frown
wikipedia said:
On 17 February 2002 the three man crew of a Strathclyde police helicopter survived a crash in an 18 month old Eurocopter EC-135.
It is. There was also a fatal crash in 1990 when a leased civilian helicopter used by Strathclyde crashed into a building in bad weather.

onyx39

11,123 posts

150 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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The media and eyewitnesses seem very disappointed that it did not explode,

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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Rollcage said:
Sounds like it's landed on the roof with a bit of a thump and gone through a few seconds later, rather than smashing straight through.
That's what seems to have been said, but the photos don't agree IMV.

TheSnitch

2,342 posts

154 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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The area where it has come down is very close to a number of major hospitals, thank god. Terrible thing to happen.

cat220

2,762 posts

215 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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From the pictures on BBC and sky it looks as though its came down tail first, main fuselage looks still to be on the roof! With the tail rotor through the flat roof.

Zad

12,701 posts

236 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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I see Archangel Alex of Salmond has piped up with his "leadership".

Sod off politicians. Please.


onyx39

11,123 posts

150 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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I'm wondering if he had a mechanical failure, tried to bring it inn for an emergency landing, mistook. Flat roof for a car park? If this is the case, he would have had to make a split second decision. If he wanted to ditch it, surely he would have put it in the river?

dandarez

13,282 posts

283 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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Zad said:
I see Archangel Alex of Salmond has piped up with his "leadership".

Sod off politicians. Please.
I think the Devil David of Cameron got in just before Alex.

Does make you want to tell them something, I agree.
At least it is Salmond's country, although I expect some would disagree!

carinaman

21,292 posts

172 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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dandarez said:
Zad said:
I see Archangel Alex of Salmond has piped up with his "leadership".

Sod off politicians. Please.
I think the Devil David of Cameron got in just before Alex.

Does make you want to tell them something, I agree.
At least it is Salmond's country, although I expect some would disagree!
Mr Salmond featured here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03jfc4f

Laplace

1,090 posts

182 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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onyx39 said:
I'm wondering if he had a mechanical failure, tried to bring it inn for an emergency landing, mistook. Flat roof for a car park? If this is the case, he would have had to make a split second decision. If he wanted to ditch it, surely he would have put it in the river?
I'm guessing that's where he was probably heading for before he ran out of altitude.

onyx39

11,123 posts

150 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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Why do sky news keep saying "emergency services responded immediately" what do they usually do, have a cup of tea and a spot of lunch before they turn out??

onyx39

11,123 posts

150 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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Twitter alive with talk of fatalities frown

R I p

onyx39

11,123 posts

150 months

Saturday 30th November 2013
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@STVNews: STV News understands three people have died on board the police helicopter that crashed in Glasgow tonight. http://t.co/FBhpbpcXfY

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