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Is it time for the FOI questions yet? Or shall I leave it for a few more days. No doubt the Beeb are already prepared for the inbound questions.
I intend to ask:
- how many additional journalists, technicians and additional personnel were deployed to South Africa in the period between NM's death and his funeral?
- in what class did they fly and what airline was used? (Might sound petty but I am in the public sector and use of business class is not permitted)
- what was the total cost of the SA based coverage, including transmitting QT from SA?
- what was the total number of complaints received by the BBC in relation to its level of coverage of Nelson Mandela's death, up until his funeral on 15 Dec?
- why did the BBC only make one official response, dated 6 Dec in relation to the excessive coverage.
Once I have the answers I will be writing to my MP and also to Lord Patten. I don't expect to achieve anything by this other than getting it off my chest and making the BBC squirm just a tiny bit.
I intend to ask:
- how many additional journalists, technicians and additional personnel were deployed to South Africa in the period between NM's death and his funeral?
- in what class did they fly and what airline was used? (Might sound petty but I am in the public sector and use of business class is not permitted)
- what was the total cost of the SA based coverage, including transmitting QT from SA?
- what was the total number of complaints received by the BBC in relation to its level of coverage of Nelson Mandela's death, up until his funeral on 15 Dec?
- why did the BBC only make one official response, dated 6 Dec in relation to the excessive coverage.
Once I have the answers I will be writing to my MP and also to Lord Patten. I don't expect to achieve anything by this other than getting it off my chest and making the BBC squirm just a tiny bit.
mercGLowner said:
- how many additional journalists, technicians and additional personnel were deployed to South Africa in the period between NM's death and his funeral?
Someone earlier on this thread said they were asked to help out with the broadcasting, I tried to find a link but searching for BBC and Mandela just melts Google.mercGLowner said:
Is it time for the FOI questions yet? Or shall I leave it for a few more days. No doubt the Beeb are already prepared for the inbound questions.
I intend to ask:
- how many additional journalists, technicians and additional personnel were deployed to South Africa in the period between NM's death and his funeral?
- in what class did they fly and what airline was used? (Might sound petty but I am in the public sector and use of business class is not permitted)
- what was the total cost of the SA based coverage, including transmitting QT from SA?
- what was the total number of complaints received by the BBC in relation to its level of coverage of Nelson Mandela's death, up until his funeral on 15 Dec?
- why did the BBC only make one official response, dated 6 Dec in relation to the excessive coverage.
Once I have the answers I will be writing to my MP and also to Lord Patten. I don't expect to achieve anything by this other than getting it off my chest and making the BBC squirm just a tiny bit.
Could you also ask why they refuse to take complaint when the have answered a complaint, this policy fails to allow people to express their feelings also the BBC does not have a gauge of the level of public dissatisfaction. I intend to ask:
- how many additional journalists, technicians and additional personnel were deployed to South Africa in the period between NM's death and his funeral?
- in what class did they fly and what airline was used? (Might sound petty but I am in the public sector and use of business class is not permitted)
- what was the total cost of the SA based coverage, including transmitting QT from SA?
- what was the total number of complaints received by the BBC in relation to its level of coverage of Nelson Mandela's death, up until his funeral on 15 Dec?
- why did the BBC only make one official response, dated 6 Dec in relation to the excessive coverage.
Once I have the answers I will be writing to my MP and also to Lord Patten. I don't expect to achieve anything by this other than getting it off my chest and making the BBC squirm just a tiny bit.
THE BBC SAID ABOUT QUESTION TIME BEING BROADCAST FROM JO'BURG said:
Complaint
We have received complaints from viewers who were unhappy the programme was broadcast from Johannesburg and focused on South African issues.
Response from Question Time
Nelson Mandela was a hugely significant world leader with an enormous political and cultural influence across the world. His death is of considerable interest to our audiences at home and across the globe. The Question Time special from Johannesburg gave viewers an insight into the personal and political views of people in South Africa at a poignant time for the country, and in a way that would not have been possible in a broadcast from the UK. Although Question Time is usually based in the UK, it has broadcast from other countries before and audiences at home regularly debate international topics such as Syria, Edward Snowdon and other global news stories. The programme was of interest to our viewers and was the most watched programme on TV at that time.
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Yet another, we are right, you are very wrong reply from the Beeb. "His death is of considerable interest to out audiences at home and across the globe"....... Except the "across the fWe have received complaints from viewers who were unhappy the programme was broadcast from Johannesburg and focused on South African issues.
Response from Question Time
Nelson Mandela was a hugely significant world leader with an enormous political and cultural influence across the world. His death is of considerable interest to our audiences at home and across the globe. The Question Time special from Johannesburg gave viewers an insight into the personal and political views of people in South Africa at a poignant time for the country, and in a way that would not have been possible in a broadcast from the UK. Although Question Time is usually based in the UK, it has broadcast from other countries before and audiences at home regularly debate international topics such as Syria, Edward Snowdon and other global news stories. The programme was of interest to our viewers and was the most watched programme on TV at that time.
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king globe" element don't have to pay for this huge hand wringing extravagance. The tone is very much 'we know best' and you get what you are given.mercGLowner said:
Is it time for the FOI questions yet? Or shall I leave it for a few more days. No doubt the Beeb are already prepared for the inbound questions.
The BBC have exemptions that allow them to weasel their way out of revealing anything that counts as ‘journalism, art or literature’.They've already used this to beat off enquiries into their support of the global warming cult.
Edited by Beati Dogu on Tuesday 17th December 00:07
I think it will be interesting to see how the BBC handle the eventual death of our Queen.
Surely, any surfeit of coverage in Mandela's favour would imply that the BBC consider the Queen less worthy...
As Portillo pointed out, this blanket coverage cheapens everything; as if the only measure of the worthiness of an individual becomes the quantity of visible attention paid to their death (in lieu of actual grief, or meaningful analysis of their contribution).
Surely, any surfeit of coverage in Mandela's favour would imply that the BBC consider the Queen less worthy...
As Portillo pointed out, this blanket coverage cheapens everything; as if the only measure of the worthiness of an individual becomes the quantity of visible attention paid to their death (in lieu of actual grief, or meaningful analysis of their contribution).
Edited by dxg on Tuesday 17th December 00:20
4v6 said:
Itd not surprise me in the least if the good ol beeb had put a camera in his coffin to let us know how he's getting on in the afterlife.
They really need to quit.
They really need to quit.
Weekly programme to watch the old bugger decomposing...
Murray Walker...Aaaaaand his left arm falls off, we weren't expecting that so early in the race...AAAAAAAAAD there goes another toe, the pace is quite extraordinary....AAAAAAAND...a nose, yes a nose, a nose, never seen anything quite like this in one event...can we get Martin Brundle in there with a microphone, I wonder....
loose cannon said:
I don't think it's just the bbc news, every time I watch itv london evening news we have to suffer yet another
Story linked or associated to Steven lawrence, it was terrible what happened to the poor so and so but it happened and it was a long time ago so why do we have to keep constantly hearing about it day after day its old news now and isn't it time the news moved on and his mother also because she just comes across now as milking the situation IMO
Because there are still a lot of people who are making money out of it and also feeding the racial tension as much as they can as it is 'good for business'. Can't have black and white people being happy living next to each other It would not be like it is in the USA and can you imagine the number of 'centres' and ‘projects’ that would be closed and ‘community leaders,’ ‘out reach workers’ and ‘diversity coordinators’ that would no longer be required?Story linked or associated to Steven lawrence, it was terrible what happened to the poor so and so but it happened and it was a long time ago so why do we have to keep constantly hearing about it day after day its old news now and isn't it time the news moved on and his mother also because she just comes across now as milking the situation IMO
Nope, the last serious murder with obvious white/black racist overtones and Police bungling must be flogged to death as much as possible until another happens that can then be used for the next 20+ years...
Sorry hobby horse of mine.
mercGLowner said:
Is it time for the FOI questions yet? Or shall I leave it for a few more days. No doubt the Beeb are already prepared for the inbound questions.
I intend to ask:
- how many additional journalists, technicians and additional personnel were deployed to South Africa in the period between NM's death and his funeral?
- in what class did they fly and what airline was used? (Might sound petty but I am in the public sector and use of business class is not permitted)
- what was the total cost of the SA based coverage, including transmitting QT from SA?
- what was the total number of complaints received by the BBC in relation to its level of coverage of Nelson Mandela's death, up until his funeral on 15 Dec?
- why did the BBC only make one official response, dated 6 Dec in relation to the excessive coverage.
Once I have the answers I will be writing to my MP and also to Lord Patten. I don't expect to achieve anything by this other than getting it off my chest and making the BBC squirm just a tiny bit.
Don't forget that FoI is about them showing you information that they already have. It's not about them having to answer your questions.I intend to ask:
- how many additional journalists, technicians and additional personnel were deployed to South Africa in the period between NM's death and his funeral?
- in what class did they fly and what airline was used? (Might sound petty but I am in the public sector and use of business class is not permitted)
- what was the total cost of the SA based coverage, including transmitting QT from SA?
- what was the total number of complaints received by the BBC in relation to its level of coverage of Nelson Mandela's death, up until his funeral on 15 Dec?
- why did the BBC only make one official response, dated 6 Dec in relation to the excessive coverage.
Once I have the answers I will be writing to my MP and also to Lord Patten. I don't expect to achieve anything by this other than getting it off my chest and making the BBC squirm just a tiny bit.
On the Queen dying, I think the opposite of some PHers - I see blanket coverage for a week. And I don't mean like what we've just had.
Randy Winkman said:
Don't forget that FoI is about them showing you information that they already have. It's not about them having to answer your questions.
On the Queen dying, I think the opposite of some PHers - I see blanket coverage for a week. And I don't mean like what we've just had.
I think that when queenie pops her clogs there'll be a mejahgasm of such proportions that it'll relegate Diana & Mandela to not even also rans - I rather suspect it'll make the VE & VJ headlines look positively understated by comparison. And it'll be E V E R Y W H E R E with no escape On the Queen dying, I think the opposite of some PHers - I see blanket coverage for a week. And I don't mean like what we've just had.
I rather suspect that when it does happen I'll be trying to book a week or 2 away
Had a giggle reading Eddie Mair's very t-i-c review of 2013.
Bit of a parody but you know what they say about many a true word spoken in jest.
"Today we left Broadcasting House for the last time. 156 middle managers accidentally locked in"
"BBC discovers it's lost 156 middle managers. Hires 200 to replace them. "
He had some bizarre account about having dinner with Sir Alex Ferguson and the restaurant being scandalised by the behaviour of amongst others Chris Huhne, Vicky Pryce and Piers Morgan. "Piers was chucked out"
Bit of a parody but you know what they say about many a true word spoken in jest.
"Today we left Broadcasting House for the last time. 156 middle managers accidentally locked in"
"BBC discovers it's lost 156 middle managers. Hires 200 to replace them. "
He had some bizarre account about having dinner with Sir Alex Ferguson and the restaurant being scandalised by the behaviour of amongst others Chris Huhne, Vicky Pryce and Piers Morgan. "Piers was chucked out"
The solution to the beebs tendency of gross self indulgence vis a vis promoting its propaganda projects, is probably to go into stasis for a month or so, plumbing oneself into a litre or so of scotch before emerging mothlike from under the covers.
Thats certainly where I'm headed when the blue blood finally heels to port and capsizes.
You just know its going to be a bbc vulturefest.
Thats certainly where I'm headed when the blue blood finally heels to port and capsizes.
You just know its going to be a bbc vulturefest.
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