Michael Schumacher hurt skiing
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stuttgartmetal said:
There is no good news
At all.
Otherwise we'd be told.
There no reason not too.
Whilst it may be true that there is no good news, I disagree that there is no reason not to report good news.At all.
Otherwise we'd be told.
There no reason not too.
If he was able to stand unaided and they told the media then the headline would be 'Schumacher starting to walk again' or at the very least people would assume that if he can stand unaided then he must be able to move his arms OK and have good motor control etc
People base their expectations of recovery on 'normal' people. People with brain injuries never follow expected paths on recovery.
Plus - whats 'good news'? Some may think that being able to hold a pen is good news whereas others will think that after 12 months that is tragic news and he will never recover.
Amazing the resemblance in Michael's daughter.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3150068/Mi...
Ps. Excuse the Daily Mail link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3150068/Mi...
Ps. Excuse the Daily Mail link
There are some dreadful comments on that article from DM readers - what are Michaels family supposed to have done with their lives since the terrible accident - give up living because of it? I don't think he would want that.
I'm glad to see they are living a life even after this terrible thing. Michael's son involved with racing, his girl and wife involved with their horses etc.
He would be proud and fully supportive of them I'm sure.
I'm glad to see they are living a life even after this terrible thing. Michael's son involved with racing, his girl and wife involved with their horses etc.
He would be proud and fully supportive of them I'm sure.
audi321 said:
We still have absolutely no idea what real state MS is in do we?
Nope and I don't think we ever will until his death happens; I'm not tryng to be morbid or negative when I say that, but it will most likely be one of those things when in 10 years time there is something in the press out of the blue that he has passed away from an infection, or pneumonia or something.Would love to be wrong but the fact that 18m has passed since the accident and there has not been one confirmed report about his condition, really would have you believe that he isn't getting better and it isn't looking good for him.
HTP99 said:
audi321 said:
We still have absolutely no idea what real state MS is in do we?
Nope and I don't think we ever will until his death happens; I'm not tryng to be morbid or negative when I say that, but it will most likely be one of those things when in 10 years time there is something in the press out of the blue that he has passed away from an infection, or pneumonia or something.I'll tell you what state I think he's in - he will be severely disabled with little or no motor skills whatsoever. I would further speculate that he has limited awareness and can maybe respond to the sight of loved ones in a very subtle way such as a smile of sorts. His body will be strapped into some form of wheelchair with supporting attachments.
He will suffer with muscle stiffness that will hold his body in an unnatural appearance, looking contorted in the extreme. It's likely he will suffer from epilepsy in some form.
He will have problems with most if not all day to day living and any progress will be extremely limited.
I've seen far too many people in this state from lesser injuries and having kept abreast of snippets from the press and comments made by his friends etc I see no reason to doubt what is above.
It's a truly awful thing that has happened.
The thing is though - many many people in this world suffer in similar ways through brain injuries. They may have suffered oxygen starvation at birth resulting in global brain damage, or a premature birth being responsible for an IVH. They may have led a normal life like MS and then had a freak accident or suffered a really bad stroke.
Having a life prognosis affected or altered by a brain injury is a truly terrifying thing and the more people who become educated about injuries like this the better. It can happen from a drunken punch, a clothes line tackle in rugby, repeated hits from boxing, car crashes etc etc.
He will suffer with muscle stiffness that will hold his body in an unnatural appearance, looking contorted in the extreme. It's likely he will suffer from epilepsy in some form.
He will have problems with most if not all day to day living and any progress will be extremely limited.
I've seen far too many people in this state from lesser injuries and having kept abreast of snippets from the press and comments made by his friends etc I see no reason to doubt what is above.
It's a truly awful thing that has happened.
The thing is though - many many people in this world suffer in similar ways through brain injuries. They may have suffered oxygen starvation at birth resulting in global brain damage, or a premature birth being responsible for an IVH. They may have led a normal life like MS and then had a freak accident or suffered a really bad stroke.
Having a life prognosis affected or altered by a brain injury is a truly terrifying thing and the more people who become educated about injuries like this the better. It can happen from a drunken punch, a clothes line tackle in rugby, repeated hits from boxing, car crashes etc etc.
Equally I suspect that he's completely unresponsive to any stimulus and it'll be an infection or old age that gets him in the end.
When my father-in-law had his head injury this is the state he was in and we were looking at him being put into a bed, not on any life support except nutrients through a drip as they're not allowed to starve patients.
My wife was convinced she squeezed her fingers but the hospitals proved it was wishful thinking on her part.
He was in his 60s, both his parents died in their 80s and the medics said that "unless an infection or some other cause gets him" there's no reason to believe that he wouldn't outlive his parents as is the norm these days.
We were looking down the barrels of him being in this start for 20 years, thanks fully his windpipe collapsed as they were moving him out of Intensive care.
My guess, and that is all any of us can do, is that they've got him in a sterile chamber to minimise the risk of infection in the hope that medical science or a miracle will enable recovery.
When my father-in-law had his head injury this is the state he was in and we were looking at him being put into a bed, not on any life support except nutrients through a drip as they're not allowed to starve patients.
My wife was convinced she squeezed her fingers but the hospitals proved it was wishful thinking on her part.
He was in his 60s, both his parents died in their 80s and the medics said that "unless an infection or some other cause gets him" there's no reason to believe that he wouldn't outlive his parents as is the norm these days.
We were looking down the barrels of him being in this start for 20 years, thanks fully his windpipe collapsed as they were moving him out of Intensive care.
My guess, and that is all any of us can do, is that they've got him in a sterile chamber to minimise the risk of infection in the hope that medical science or a miracle will enable recovery.
Agree with both those posts, based on my thankfully limited experience.
I got slammed on here a while ago for suggesting this is the likely case - some even cited my brother's full(ish) recovery as an example of how little the docs know.
Unfortunately, the docs know all to well. They know the stats, the examples, everything. What for us is hopefully something never to be experienced, they experience every day. A recovery of any useful type is rare enough that my bro still gets a birthday card from the neurosurgeon who had a big impact in saving hos life, several years later.
I got slammed on here a while ago for suggesting this is the likely case - some even cited my brother's full(ish) recovery as an example of how little the docs know.
Unfortunately, the docs know all to well. They know the stats, the examples, everything. What for us is hopefully something never to be experienced, they experience every day. A recovery of any useful type is rare enough that my bro still gets a birthday card from the neurosurgeon who had a big impact in saving hos life, several years later.
Never knew him, never met him, and he's no different that thousands of others.
But I must confess that for some reason having grown up with him being in our consciousness I feel desperately upset by his situation. I cannot think of anything worse than such a living death.
I almost pray for his death, and this is something which I feel bad about, but I just can't help it.
I certainly hope that if I was in such a predicament someone would take of it for me with a couple of cartridges or a big shot of morphine.
I wish you peace MS.
But I must confess that for some reason having grown up with him being in our consciousness I feel desperately upset by his situation. I cannot think of anything worse than such a living death.
I almost pray for his death, and this is something which I feel bad about, but I just can't help it.
I certainly hope that if I was in such a predicament someone would take of it for me with a couple of cartridges or a big shot of morphine.
I wish you peace MS.
t like that in such poor taste just makes you sound like a bellend mate.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff