Michael Schumacher hurt skiing
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king joke - it's a family who have had the heart torn out of it.lord trumpton said:
I'll tell you what state I think he's in - he will be severely disabled with little or no motor skills whatsoever. I would further speculate that he has limited awareness and can maybe respond to the sight of loved ones in a very subtle way such as a smile of sorts. His body will be strapped into some form of wheelchair with supporting attachments.
I've heard it second hand but from a very reliable source that this is more or less where he's at, if not worse, with virtually zero chance of improvement sadly.Telegraph story from a few weeks ago: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formul...
Assuming this is remotely accurate, it's comparitively good news.
<i>Being able to tell he has memory problems</i> is MASSIVE in the context of this sort of catastrophic injury. It indicates a pretty significant level of communication being achieved, probably via computer, Hawking-style. It means he has a decent chance of exerting some control over his life, making choices, maybe controlling an electric wheelchair. He can have conversations. It's also something I think that has the capacity to improve a bit more over time, more so IIRC than the motor skills stuff.
Assuming this is remotely accurate, it's comparitively good news.
<i>Being able to tell he has memory problems</i> is MASSIVE in the context of this sort of catastrophic injury. It indicates a pretty significant level of communication being achieved, probably via computer, Hawking-style. It means he has a decent chance of exerting some control over his life, making choices, maybe controlling an electric wheelchair. He can have conversations. It's also something I think that has the capacity to improve a bit more over time, more so IIRC than the motor skills stuff.
BlackVanDyke said:
Telegraph story from a few weeks ago: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formul...
Assuming this is remotely accurate, it's comparitively good news.
<i>Being able to tell he has memory problems</i> is MASSIVE in the context of this sort of catastrophic injury. It indicates a pretty significant level of communication being achieved, probably via computer, Hawking-style. It means he has a decent chance of exerting some control over his life, making choices, maybe controlling an electric wheelchair. He can have conversations. It's also something I think that has the capacity to improve a bit more over time, more so IIRC than the motor skills stuff.
No I'm not reading the article with the same degree of optimism I'm afraid.Assuming this is remotely accurate, it's comparitively good news.
<i>Being able to tell he has memory problems</i> is MASSIVE in the context of this sort of catastrophic injury. It indicates a pretty significant level of communication being achieved, probably via computer, Hawking-style. It means he has a decent chance of exerting some control over his life, making choices, maybe controlling an electric wheelchair. He can have conversations. It's also something I think that has the capacity to improve a bit more over time, more so IIRC than the motor skills stuff.
Don't forget his 'friend' is not going to stick the boot in by giving an account 'as it is' Unfortunately I take 'Memory problems' as him not recognising or responding to people.
Hawking's computer device is basically controlled by a sensor that detects movements in a facial muscle. Hawking's brain and awareness is as sharp as a razor and that allows him to use it. Schumacher will have next to no awareness.
His brain suffered diffuse injuries and this basically means its damaged all over in throughout. To have any form of intellect or ability to communicate would be a miracle I sorry to say. The comment about him getting better is 'relative' and that is relative to catastrophic cranial trauma.
BlackVanDyke said:
Telegraph story from a few weeks ago: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formul...
Assuming this is remotely accurate, it's comparitively good news.
<i>Being able to tell he has memory problems</i> is MASSIVE in the context of this sort of catastrophic injury. It indicates a pretty significant level of communication being achieved, probably via computer, Hawking-style. It means he has a decent chance of exerting some control over his life, making choices, maybe controlling an electric wheelchair. He can have conversations. It's also something I think that has the capacity to improve a bit more over time, more so IIRC than the motor skills stuff.
Christ , going from the best ever racing driver to that... very grimAssuming this is remotely accurate, it's comparitively good news.
<i>Being able to tell he has memory problems</i> is MASSIVE in the context of this sort of catastrophic injury. It indicates a pretty significant level of communication being achieved, probably via computer, Hawking-style. It means he has a decent chance of exerting some control over his life, making choices, maybe controlling an electric wheelchair. He can have conversations. It's also something I think that has the capacity to improve a bit more over time, more so IIRC than the motor skills stuff.
audi321 said:
I wonder if we'll ever find out just how fast he was going on those skis. Not that it's relevant really, but there was 2 stories kicking around at the time, both at opposite ends of the speed scale.
Does it matter?It was an accident, these things happen and are sometimes cruel.
BlackVanDyke said:
Telegraph story from a few weeks ago: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formul...
Assuming this is remotely accurate, it's comparitively good news.
<i>Being able to tell he has memory problems</i> is MASSIVE in the context of this sort of catastrophic injury. It indicates a pretty significant level of communication being achieved, probably via computer, Hawking-style. It means he has a decent chance of exerting some control over his life, making choices, maybe controlling an electric wheelchair. He can have conversations. It's also something I think that has the capacity to improve a bit more over time, more so IIRC than the motor skills stuff.
That link took me to an old story from nov 14. Assuming this is remotely accurate, it's comparitively good news.
<i>Being able to tell he has memory problems</i> is MASSIVE in the context of this sort of catastrophic injury. It indicates a pretty significant level of communication being achieved, probably via computer, Hawking-style. It means he has a decent chance of exerting some control over his life, making choices, maybe controlling an electric wheelchair. He can have conversations. It's also something I think that has the capacity to improve a bit more over time, more so IIRC than the motor skills stuff.
imagineifyeswill said:
This tragic story just proves there are a lot of activities more dangerous than motor racing. Its often said after these kind off events that the person was lucky to survive, being left in a vegetative state they may have been better not surviving.
It doesn't prove that skiing is more or less dangerous than motor racing at all.He happened to be skiing when the accident which caused this injury happened.
It's difficult to quantify which is more dangerous. I suspect that there are far more injuries in skiing BUT far more people per year ski and there are no formal requirements for qualifications to ski (as opposed to the classes of motor racing in which Schumacher competed).
yonex said:
audi321 said:
I wonder if we'll ever find out just how fast he was going on those skis. Not that it's relevant really, but there was 2 stories kicking around at the time, both at opposite ends of the speed scale.
Does it matter?It was an accident, these things happen and are sometimes cruel.
Maybe saying "Wheeeeeeeeeerehaaaaaaa!" Whilst he did it.
Imagine for a moment you're on the piste and you're going really quick and you're loving the rush of speed and this dude zooms past you like you're skiing like a child. Then you get down the bottom and there's Schumacher with a big stupid grin on his mug! What a story that'd be.
Anyway. Good luck to him and his family.
anonymous said:
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Well I thought that was funny. Far too good a call to be left alone. You lot need to take a cup of concrete sometimes.Sure a bloke that many of us admire and look up to is in a very bad way and a family suffering. But he's not exactly someone any of us are mates with. Bad things happen every day.
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