Hero to Zero (Mo Farah content)?
Discussion
As it happens I spotted an article just now, suggesting that certain members of the Rangers club are currently being pursued by the police and others over their activities at Rangers some years ago. Whether that will actually encompass any tax avoidance activities I rather doubt. But at least the authorities are trying to ensure some action over improper activities. Which is it should be.
That does not mean all the other offshore shenanigans currently about in our economy are being persued I do not think the manpower needed is available. Nor do I think that the Government will take that essential step currently.
That does not mean all the other offshore shenanigans currently about in our economy are being persued I do not think the manpower needed is available. Nor do I think that the Government will take that essential step currently.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Jenson Button & Philip Green are British, but they are also tax exiles, which in my eyes devalues them as individuals despite their their achievements.
If they don't live in the UK why TF should they pay taxes there? They presumably paid taxes in the UK when they did live there. If there is some moral requirement to pay tax surely it is only to the country in which you live? Agree about Mo Farah though, whilst personally I don't get why running is in any way heroic unless it's with a wounded man on your back and under enemy fire, the fact that he lives in the US means he likely pays WAY MORE tax gross than he would if he just lived in the UK. Tax exile? What a load of drivel.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2013/0...
Countdown said:
Fair enough. I'm just wondering why some people don't like the thought of Mo being British........
Yes, strange isn't it? When Terry Butcher (born in Singapore) was captaining England and coming off the pitch covered in blood, I don't recall anyone debating his Englishness.As Mrs Merton might say, why was fair haired blue eyed Butcher regarded as English without question and Mo Farah not?
I think an element of it, is the problem a lot of people have with others taking control of their self-identification. Nationality doesn't really matter but people wanna represent a certain country, or live somewhere, or be known as something, hey have the ability to do it. From nationality, to sexual orientation, there are always other that just wanna throw cak-car around. I think some people see others break their casting/paradigm and say, 'nah, this is what I am', and are either jealous or bitter.
I think it also ties in somehow to the crazy nationalists. Ever see the editwars on wiki over the nationality of people in the media in the UK? Christian Bale is a good one.
I think it also ties in somehow to the crazy nationalists. Ever see the editwars on wiki over the nationality of people in the media in the UK? Christian Bale is a good one.
Eric Mc said:
Are you English?
It's not clear from that post
Does it matter? I prefer thinking of myself as a Lanky. Also, I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not. It's not clear from that post
There are a few good examples, there is a Welsh boxer, I forget the name, loads of actors (which are the pages I look at more than others.
)Eric Mc said:
I see.
Determining one's nationality can be quite complex and, in some cases, a person can have more than one at the same time - like me
Indeed. I have friends who have moved/parents moved and so makes their feelings/history varied.Determining one's nationality can be quite complex and, in some cases, a person can have more than one at the same time - like me
For me it there is what my passport says, but I self-identify as a human more than anything, but I like the Lankys.
I've just spent an amusing few minutes reading some comments on the talk pages of Bale and Joe Calzaghe.
SOme of the stuff written there must be advanced satire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Joe_Calzaghe/Ar...
SOme of the stuff written there must be advanced satire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Joe_Calzaghe/Ar...
DJRC said:
Actually we do it for the weather. And to get away from the all pervading miserable pessimism of Britain.
This is why I will leave the UK the minute I can afford to. The current plan is in 5 years but I'm hoping to get a job abroad as sooner.A good mate has just got a job in NZ and his house has sold. He's off in less less than a month.
Nice article on the BBC website for the Farah fans. As a runner I see what he does as completely incomprehensible.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/34096616
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/34096616
98elise said:
DJRC said:
Actually we do it for the weather. And to get away from the all pervading miserable pessimism of Britain.
This is why I will leave the UK the minute I can afford to. The current plan is in 5 years but I'm hoping to get a job abroad as sooner.A good mate has just got a job in NZ and his house has sold. He's off in less less than a month.
But then I'm a northerner at heart and loved League of Gentlemen.
Europe has a default setting of polite cheerfulness in everyone and friendly formality at meetings etc. It took me a long while to having Minutes of Meetings where everyone has to be thanked for at tenting and presenting something, even if it then gets ripped apart. I keep finding having to stop myself from standing up and shouting: "But why?? He's just done his f
king job prepping and presenting this stuff! Wtf do you want to do...give him a fking Blue Peter badge or something?"
Im told its this attitude which marks me as instinctively English by my European colleagues
king job prepping and presenting this stuff! Wtf do you want to do...give him a fking Blue Peter badge or something?"Im told its this attitude which marks me as instinctively English by my European colleagues
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