Hero to Zero (Mo Farah content)?
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Kaj91 said:
I don't mean to be rude, but are they blind? Are you seriously suggesting that anyone can look at Mohamed Muktar Jama "Mo" Farah and think anything else?
Black people can be born in the UK and not Muslim you know. I'm sure at least one person called Mohamed has renounced their faith.NinjaPower said:
Kaj91 said:
GetCarter said:
I just wish he had kept Mohamed, rather than Mo. Would do a lot more to help Islamic / western relations.
Many Brits look up to him and don't even realise he is a foreigner, immigrant & Islamist.
I don't mean to be rude, but are they blind? Are you seriously suggesting that anyone can look at Mohamed Muktar Jama "Mo" Farah and think anything else?Many Brits look up to him and don't even realise he is a foreigner, immigrant & Islamist.
Bradgate said:
Mo's father is British, a Londoner born and bred, so it's pushing it a bit to call Mo a foreigner and an immigrant. If he was white, like Chris Froome (who was born & raised in Kenya to British parents), no-one would be calling him "a foreigner and an immigrant".
Born in Somalia, Farah moved to the UK as a child. He was originally based in London.davepoth said:
Kaj91 said:
I don't mean to be rude, but are they blind? Are you seriously suggesting that anyone can look at Mohamed Muktar Jama "Mo" Farah and think anything else?
Black people can be born in the UK and not Muslim you know. I'm sure at least one person called Mohamed has renounced their faith.
Bluequay said:
Why is it ungrateful, if he's living in the US he will have to pay taxes there. He moved to train there with his coach, he hasn't moved to a tax haven to avoid paying tax, it is a complete non-story. He's won several gold medals for Britain he's more the repaid his part of the bargain.
The real story should be, should we be funding multi-millionaire athletes, I don't think we should, that money would be better off going towards the next generation of athletes coming up.
The direct funding of UK Olympic athletes is generally based on age and ability to win a medal.The real story should be, should we be funding multi-millionaire athletes, I don't think we should, that money would be better off going towards the next generation of athletes coming up.
For example UK cyclists are basically paid a good professional wage (Kenny apparently gets around £65,000, Wiggins was getting an amount comparable to someones on a graduate salary at a FTSE100 company before he won gold in Athens).
I don't think they continue to draw a salary from UK sport if they are a millionaire from endorsements and prize money, they do however benefit from equipment and staff, which to be honest is pretty sensible as that capability would be lost to the nation if we made the top athletes fund their own training staff!
Also the top athletes normally start putting something back in after they retire.
Talksteer said:
Bluequay said:
Why is it ungrateful, if he's living in the US he will have to pay taxes there. He moved to train there with his coach, he hasn't moved to a tax haven to avoid paying tax, it is a complete non-story. He's won several gold medals for Britain he's more the repaid his part of the bargain.
The real story should be, should we be funding multi-millionaire athletes, I don't think we should, that money would be better off going towards the next generation of athletes coming up.
The direct funding of UK Olympic athletes is generally based on age and ability to win a medal.The real story should be, should we be funding multi-millionaire athletes, I don't think we should, that money would be better off going towards the next generation of athletes coming up.
For example UK cyclists are basically paid a good professional wage (Kenny apparently gets around £65,000, Wiggins was getting an amount comparable to someones on a graduate salary at a FTSE100 company before he won gold in Athens).
I don't think they continue to draw a salary from UK sport if they are a millionaire from endorsements and prize money, they do however benefit from equipment and staff, which to be honest is pretty sensible as that capability would be lost to the nation if we made the top athletes fund their own training staff!
Also the top athletes normally start putting something back in after they retire.
UK Sport website said:
APAs serve to contribute to the athlete’s ordinary living costs and their personal sporting costs. APAs are allocated where there is the greatest ‘financial need’ and are subject to a means testing exercise. UK Sport has set a maximum income threshold of £65,000 (including their APA) above which an athlete's APA will begin to be deducted pound for pound.
The level of APA received is determined by a number of criteria, not least of which is the level of performance an athlete has achieved and is capable of producing in the future. While there are variances depending on the sport, three performance categories apply for ‘Podium’ level athletes:
Band A – Medallists at Olympic Games or Senior World Championships or gold medallists at Paralympic Games or Senior World Championships
Band B – a minimum of a top 8 finish at Olympic Games or Senior World Championships or medallists at Paralympic Games or Senior World Championships
Band C – Likely to be major championship performers and those who demonstrate the capacity to achieve a medal result at World or Olympic level within four years but flexibility given to individual sports to set their own criteria
Athletes on Podium level funding can currently receive APAs to the value of:
Band A – up to £28,000 pa
Band B - up to £21,500 pa
Band C - up to £15,000 pa
The level of APA received is determined by a number of criteria, not least of which is the level of performance an athlete has achieved and is capable of producing in the future. While there are variances depending on the sport, three performance categories apply for ‘Podium’ level athletes:
Band A – Medallists at Olympic Games or Senior World Championships or gold medallists at Paralympic Games or Senior World Championships
Band B – a minimum of a top 8 finish at Olympic Games or Senior World Championships or medallists at Paralympic Games or Senior World Championships
Band C – Likely to be major championship performers and those who demonstrate the capacity to achieve a medal result at World or Olympic level within four years but flexibility given to individual sports to set their own criteria
Athletes on Podium level funding can currently receive APAs to the value of:
Band A – up to £28,000 pa
Band B - up to £21,500 pa
Band C - up to £15,000 pa
Kaj91 said:
Bradgate said:
Mo's father is British, a Londoner born and bred, so it's pushing it a bit to call Mo a foreigner and an immigrant. If he was white, like Chris Froome (who was born & raised in Kenya to British parents), no-one would be calling him "a foreigner and an immigrant".
Born in Somalia, Farah moved to the UK as a child. He was originally based in London.
Talksteer said:
The direct funding of UK Olympic athletes is generally based on age and ability to win a medal.
For example UK cyclists are basically paid a good professional wage (Kenny apparently gets around £65,000, Wiggins was getting an amount comparable to someones on a graduate salary at a FTSE100 company before he won gold in Athens).
I don't think they continue to draw a salary from UK sport if they are a millionaire from endorsements and prize money, they do however benefit from equipment and staff, which to be honest is pretty sensible as that capability would be lost to the nation if we made the top athletes fund their own training staff!
Also the top athletes normally start putting something back in after they retire.
The heavyweight boxing medalist from a while back had a few interesting comments, in the usual 'let's fill time' twaddle before the current super-heavy had his final.For example UK cyclists are basically paid a good professional wage (Kenny apparently gets around £65,000, Wiggins was getting an amount comparable to someones on a graduate salary at a FTSE100 company before he won gold in Athens).
I don't think they continue to draw a salary from UK sport if they are a millionaire from endorsements and prize money, they do however benefit from equipment and staff, which to be honest is pretty sensible as that capability would be lost to the nation if we made the top athletes fund their own training staff!
Also the top athletes normally start putting something back in after they retire.
All this promo sorts come with their chequebook, it once you sign, boom you're on your own to sort your nutritionist, trainer, gym etc.
It's not a case of getting the cheque and buying a nice motor.
GetCarter said:
I just wish he had kept Mohamed, rather than Mo. Would do a lot more to help Islamic / western relations.
Many Brits look up to him and don't even realise he is a foreigner, immigrant & Islamist.
Firstly, he isn't a foreigner. Many Brits look up to him and don't even realise he is a foreigner, immigrant & Islamist.
Secondly, while he is a Muslim, to claim that Mo Farah is an Islamist is quite an accusation. Have you any evidence that Mo Farah is an Islamist?
I know nothing at all about his politics, and certainly would never make the claim that he supports political Islamism, and I'm very surprised that you feel confident to do so.
If you can't back this claim up you ought to withdraw it.
rohrl said:
GetCarter said:
I just wish he had kept Mohamed, rather than Mo. Would do a lot more to help Islamic / western relations.
Many Brits look up to him and don't even realise he is a foreigner, immigrant & Islamist.
Firstly, he isn't a foreigner. Many Brits look up to him and don't even realise he is a foreigner, immigrant & Islamist.
Secondly, while he is a Muslim, to claim that Mo Farah is an Islamist is quite an accusation. Have you any evidence that Mo Farah is an Islamist?
I know nothing at all about his politics, and certainly would never make the claim that he supports political Islamism, and I'm very surprised that you feel confident to do so.
If you can't back this claim up you ought to withdraw it.
I'm no expert but Mo Farah doesn't appear to be that devout. No beard, married a woman who hasn't converted to Islam, and who has a child from a previous relationship.
I'm guessing he's just a normal run of the mill Muslim who believes in god, prays occasionally but doesn't let it take over his entire life.
I'm guessing he's just a normal run of the mill Muslim who believes in god, prays occasionally but doesn't let it take over his entire life.
ninja-lewis said:
Interesting stuff...
Thanks for that.Given the relatively poor pay they receive, it's understandable why sponsorship and endorsement is so big nowadays!
ETA: Twig - my thoughts exactly i.e. he's just a normal bloke who happens to be a Muslim and extraordinarily good at using his legs.
Countdown said:
rohrl said:
GetCarter said:
I just wish he had kept Mohamed, rather than Mo. Would do a lot more to help Islamic / western relations.
Many Brits look up to him and don't even realise he is a foreigner, immigrant & Islamist.
Firstly, he isn't a foreigner. Many Brits look up to him and don't even realise he is a foreigner, immigrant & Islamist.
Secondly, while he is a Muslim, to claim that Mo Farah is an Islamist is quite an accusation. Have you any evidence that Mo Farah is an Islamist?
I know nothing at all about his politics, and certainly would never make the claim that he supports political Islamism, and I'm very surprised that you feel confident to do so.
If you can't back this claim up you ought to withdraw it.
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