Hero to Zero (Mo Farah content)?
Discussion
Digga said:
jjlynn27 said:
Digga said:
To a non-runner, that's probably a long way.
To some cyclists, that's a long way. As a foreigner, I don't understand the whole infatuation with OBE, CDE, SQE or any other E. Do people still REALLY care about those?
Digga said:
Yes, many people - recipients and the general public alike - do perceive the prestige and recognition these awards represent. Don't forget, the U.K. is one of the foremost monarchies left, the royal family is generally well liked and so their interest in outstanding achievements carries gravitas.
I do think that royals are quite useful, they make money for UK, so no problems there at all, (sans Charles voicing his opinion on homoeopathy). Was more interested in people's reaction to knighthood, all sounds a bit 'meh' to me. You can tell a lot about the opening poster from the use of inverted commas around the word British when describing a man who came to Britain when he was eight years old. The OP also appears to think that Oregon (a place subject to state and US Federal taxes) is a tax haven.
TDIPLC said:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/olympic-hero-mo-farah-app...
Somalian born "British" CBE holder doesn't seem to like paying UK taxes.
What dop you think?
Somalian born "British" CBE holder doesn't seem to like paying UK taxes.
What dop you think?
Jimboka said:
Not bad going 2014 - Hero to Zero was the title
A few years later. A stack of gold medals & a Knighthood. I expect a few 10s of millions in the bank.
Will be interesting to compare the initial posters achievements in comparison!
Yes, I think there's very little point in considering that aspect of the thread. Better to concentrate on the more constructive comments and, indeed, the constructive discussion about the honours system TBF.A few years later. A stack of gold medals & a Knighthood. I expect a few 10s of millions in the bank.
Will be interesting to compare the initial posters achievements in comparison!
Breadvan72 said:
You can tell a lot about the opening poster from the use of inverted commas around the word British when describing a man who came to Britain when he was eight years old. The OP also appears to think that Oregon (a place subject to state and US Federal taxes) is a tax haven.
TDIPLC said:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/olympic-hero-mo-farah-app...
Somalian born "British" CBE holder doesn't seem to like paying UK taxes.
What dop you think?
Somalian born "British" CBE holder doesn't seem to like paying UK taxes.
What dop you think?
Surely the 'Britishness' of someone can be questioned when they live in and call the USA 'home'?
REALIST123 said:
Breadvan72 said:
You can tell a lot about the opening poster from the use of inverted commas around the word British when describing a man who came to Britain when he was eight years old. The OP also appears to think that Oregon (a place subject to state and US Federal taxes) is a tax haven.
TDIPLC said:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/olympic-hero-mo-farah-app...
Somalian born "British" CBE holder doesn't seem to like paying UK taxes.
What dop you think?
Somalian born "British" CBE holder doesn't seem to like paying UK taxes.
What dop you think?
Surely the 'Britishness' of someone can be questioned when they live in and call the USA 'home'?
rscott said:
REALIST123 said:
Breadvan72 said:
You can tell a lot about the opening poster from the use of inverted commas around the word British when describing a man who came to Britain when he was eight years old. The OP also appears to think that Oregon (a place subject to state and US Federal taxes) is a tax haven.
TDIPLC said:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/olympic-hero-mo-farah-app...
Somalian born "British" CBE holder doesn't seem to like paying UK taxes.
What dop you think?
Somalian born "British" CBE holder doesn't seem to like paying UK taxes.
What dop you think?
Surely the 'Britishness' of someone can be questioned when they live in and call the USA 'home'?
rscott said:
So Paula Radcliffe's 'Britishness' can be questioned? After all, she lives in Monaco..
The subject is worthy of some scrutiny.Farah's father was British, his mother Somalian, they met when the father visited Somalia on holiday. Farah was born in Somalia and stayed there as a child. At this point is he Somalian or British? He's Somalian. He moved to the UK at eight, went to college and started exercising vigorously, needlessly running very fast between to points. He won lots of awards. He travelled within the UK on a visa until a coach paid for his UK citizenship at 14 in 97. Now he's British. Just like that. It was obviously pretty easy back then, especially if you showed athletic promise apparently. In 2011 Farah announced he was moving to Portland, where he has lived ever since. So Farah is British, as there is no requirement for a UK citizen to actually live in the UK. It may look flimsy, but those are the facts.
Radcliffe was born in the UK and has lived in the UK until she moved to Monte Carlo ten years ago. Conclusion: nationality not flimsy at all.
popeyewhite said:
The subject is worthy of some scrutiny.
Farah's father was British, his mother Somalian, they met when the father visited Somalia on holiday. Farah was born in Somalia and stayed there as a child. At this point is he Somalian or British? He's Somalian. He moved to the UK at eight, went to college and started exercising vigorously, needlessly running very fast between to points. He won lots of awards. He travelled within the UK on a visa until a coach paid for his UK citizenship at 14 in 97. Now he's British. Just like that. It was obviously pretty easy back then, especially if you showed athletic promise apparently. In 2011 Farah announced he was moving to Portland, where he has lived ever since. So Farah is British, as there is no requirement for a UK citizen to actually live in the UK. It may look flimsy, but those are the facts.
Radcliffe was born in the UK and has lived in the UK until she moved to Monte Carlo ten years ago. Conclusion: nationality not flimsy at all.
I thought he'd moved to US to be close to his coach, and is moving back to London since they split? (possibly as he needs someone else to provide performance enhancing drugs now his original source has been busted, but that's another point)Farah's father was British, his mother Somalian, they met when the father visited Somalia on holiday. Farah was born in Somalia and stayed there as a child. At this point is he Somalian or British? He's Somalian. He moved to the UK at eight, went to college and started exercising vigorously, needlessly running very fast between to points. He won lots of awards. He travelled within the UK on a visa until a coach paid for his UK citizenship at 14 in 97. Now he's British. Just like that. It was obviously pretty easy back then, especially if you showed athletic promise apparently. In 2011 Farah announced he was moving to Portland, where he has lived ever since. So Farah is British, as there is no requirement for a UK citizen to actually live in the UK. It may look flimsy, but those are the facts.
Radcliffe was born in the UK and has lived in the UK until she moved to Monte Carlo ten years ago. Conclusion: nationality not flimsy at all.
popeyewhite said:
rscott said:
So Paula Radcliffe's 'Britishness' can be questioned? After all, she lives in Monaco..
The subject is worthy of some scrutiny.Farah's father was British, his mother Somalian, they met when the father visited Somalia on holiday. Farah was born in Somalia and stayed there as a child. At this point is he Somalian or British? He's Somalian. He moved to the UK at eight, went to college and started exercising vigorously, needlessly running very fast between to points. He won lots of awards. He travelled within the UK on a visa until a coach paid for his UK citizenship at 14 in 97. Now he's British. Just like that. It was obviously pretty easy back then, especially if you showed athletic promise apparently. In 2011 Farah announced he was moving to Portland, where he has lived ever since. So Farah is British, as there is no requirement for a UK citizen to actually live in the UK. It may look flimsy, but those are the facts.
Radcliffe was born in the UK and has lived in the UK until she moved to Monte Carlo ten years ago. Conclusion: nationality not flimsy at all.
I guess he could have toughed it out in Stratford, East London where he could have been inspired by stabby teenagers whose running capabilities largely revolve around drugs and guns. Instead he chose to surround himself with other high performing long distance runners from the US. A really odd choice..
He is now leaving the Nike Oregon project and is moving back to the UK.
Digga said:
I have a friend who was a surgery nurse in the army, amongst other places she served in Camp Bastion. She had a better time than others, but she was not totally unscathed.
Most weeks she's running marathons, competing in triathlons or ultra endurance races, always raising money for armed servicemen and women.
She's been to a palace garden party and IMHO deserved that recognition. Awards and honours should be for those going beyond - they do exist.
Indeed.Most weeks she's running marathons, competing in triathlons or ultra endurance races, always raising money for armed servicemen and women.
She's been to a palace garden party and IMHO deserved that recognition. Awards and honours should be for those going beyond - they do exist.
There was an actor who, on being featured on the cover of a magazine (Vogue? Something similar anyway), said that her heroes were doctors, scientists and such and that they should replace film stars on such magazines to encourage them as role models. We can extrapolate that to awards.
Actors and sports persons have their own form of recognition for outstanding acting/sporting. Do they need more?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/49882757
Interesting news just released regarding Mo’s former coach Salazar - banned for 4 years for doping offences.
I’m sure Mo has nothing to worry about..
Interesting news just released regarding Mo’s former coach Salazar - banned for 4 years for doping offences.
I’m sure Mo has nothing to worry about..
BlackLabel said:
Before you assume this, maybe place yourself in his shoes for a second?he is repeatedly accused of chesting, with no evidence. He inn fwct has a huge history oftrsting showing he's not cheating.
How long shouldbe be able to out up with this before he lashes back in your opinion? He'll bethinking "why do they want to destroy me? Have i done anything wrong?" . He'lll go though all his actions, realise he's never acted like a tt andall he is left with as an assumd motive of whatever is left.
Which is a pity. Some people don't like hamilton because he's acted like a tt, nothing to do with pigment. He'x come over really well this year though. I might have missed something but sir mo has never come across in any interview i hav seen as anything other than a dedicated athlete, doting family man and inspiration to sporting youth. That he can be hounded by journalists, who are as a profession on an equal footing with estate agents and taxi men is a sad case of affairs.
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