Stealing food from supermarket dustbins.
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We slaughtered old cattle and sheep, not fit for the food chain.
There is a special blue dye that gets sprayed all over the animal then they where taken away to be incinerated.
In those days the meat worked it's way back into the food chain via burgers and alike.
This practice has nowadays been stamped out.
My point is that is was slaughtered ,therefore edible hence the burgers, it's the unscrupulous buggers making money out of in effect waste material ,which is wrong, not feeding those in need.
There is a special blue dye that gets sprayed all over the animal then they where taken away to be incinerated.
In those days the meat worked it's way back into the food chain via burgers and alike.
This practice has nowadays been stamped out.
My point is that is was slaughtered ,therefore edible hence the burgers, it's the unscrupulous buggers making money out of in effect waste material ,which is wrong, not feeding those in need.
pad58 said:
We slaughtered old cattle and sheep, not fit for the food chain.
There is a special blue dye that gets sprayed all over the animal then they where taken away to be incinerated.
In those days the meat worked it's way back into the food chain via burgers and alike.
This practice has nowadays been stamped out.
My point is that is was slaughtered ,therefore edible hence the burgers, it's the unscrupulous buggers making money out of in effect waste material ,which is wrong, not feeding those in need.
It also worked it's way back to the foodchain via rendering plants supplying animal feeds etc you may be surprised what products it went into. But that opens a whole other can of worms.There is a special blue dye that gets sprayed all over the animal then they where taken away to be incinerated.
In those days the meat worked it's way back into the food chain via burgers and alike.
This practice has nowadays been stamped out.
My point is that is was slaughtered ,therefore edible hence the burgers, it's the unscrupulous buggers making money out of in effect waste material ,which is wrong, not feeding those in need.
part of the problem lies with customers and part with the retailers. The retailer wants maximum availablity with no off sales at night so you have to sit heavy with stock. The customer will rake to the very back to get 1 days newer on a product that has 14days on it etc even though they will use it the same or next day. Supermarkets can be fined up to £5000 for every item found out of date. What does this all add up to? Lots of waste.
gpo746 said:
Mobile Chicane said:
Really?
I don't recall that ever happening. I worked on the deli counter at Tesco as a student Saturday job, and absolutely everything that went out of date on a given day had to be binned.
Not given away - even to staff - but binned.
Tesco crack me upI don't recall that ever happening. I worked on the deli counter at Tesco as a student Saturday job, and absolutely everything that went out of date on a given day had to be binned.
Not given away - even to staff - but binned.
The local express one to us bins all its "fresh bakery stuff at 8pm every evening
The co op sells it off cheaper till half hour before closing
Tesco closes at 11pm
SpeckledJim said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
That may be what you think but under UK law you are wrong. Taking stuff from someone's bin is theft.
Then that needs a re-think. Theft requires an 'intention to permanently deprive'.Surely by the time you've put something in your bin, you've made it clear that you've an intention to permanently deprive yourself of that item, so shouldn't have an interest in what anyone else does with it.
I work at a home shopping delivery centre for Asda, and anything that's damaged or going out of date gets reduced (sometimes by 80+%), and goes in the colleague shop on site, as in our centre the public can't come in to shop, it's dedicated home shopping.
There's inevitably a bit of waste every night, but not a great deal, we have probably nearly 300 staff.
On top of reduction, we can use or staff 10% discount.
So Asda do do quite well in that respect.
Also, some stuff (going out of date) gets taken to other local Asdas to be reduced and sold on there.
There's inevitably a bit of waste every night, but not a great deal, we have probably nearly 300 staff.
On top of reduction, we can use or staff 10% discount.
So Asda do do quite well in that respect.
Also, some stuff (going out of date) gets taken to other local Asdas to be reduced and sold on there.
drivetrain said:
B17NNS said:
SpeckledJim said:
Food standards are a personal thing. Some people will scrape the mould off the cheese and carry on, some won't.
Would I eat unopened food from a bin if the alternative was another night on the street with hunger to worry about, on top of all my other problems? Dead right I would.
There's a moral issue with a civilised society that on one hand tolerates homelessness and hunger, and on the other hand grows, processes, stores, transports, stocks, heats/cooks/chills, throws away and finally destroys huge amounts of food, without putting it under the nose of those who desperately need it.
And worse, makes a criminal of anyone who tries to do anything about it.
Beautifully put.Would I eat unopened food from a bin if the alternative was another night on the street with hunger to worry about, on top of all my other problems? Dead right I would.
There's a moral issue with a civilised society that on one hand tolerates homelessness and hunger, and on the other hand grows, processes, stores, transports, stocks, heats/cooks/chills, throws away and finally destroys huge amounts of food, without putting it under the nose of those who desperately need it.
And worse, makes a criminal of anyone who tries to do anything about it.
Many on here (myself included) will never know the pangs of hunger or the despair of homelessness and destitution. If food has been chucked out it should be available to those unfortunate enough to need it to survive.
mph1977 said:
SpeckledJim said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
That may be what you think but under UK law you are wrong. Taking stuff from someone's bin is theft.
Then that needs a re-think. Theft requires an 'intention to permanently deprive'.Surely by the time you've put something in your bin, you've made it clear that you've an intention to permanently deprive yourself of that item, so shouldn't have an interest in what anyone else does with it.
Why are we doing 'this'?
wazztie16 said:
I work at a home shopping delivery centre for Asda, and anything that's damaged or going out of date gets reduced (sometimes by 80+%), and goes in the colleague shop on site, as in our centre the public can't come in to shop, it's dedicated home shopping.
There's inevitably a bit of waste every night, but not a great deal, we have probably nearly 300 staff.
On top of reduction, we can use or staff 10% discount.
So Asda do do quite well in that respect.
Also, some stuff (going out of date) gets taken to other local Asdas to be reduced and sold on there.
An entirely sensible approach, Sainsburys never had this approach (when I worked their as a yoof) becuase the standard line was "staff would deliberately spoil food to get it cheap". There's inevitably a bit of waste every night, but not a great deal, we have probably nearly 300 staff.
On top of reduction, we can use or staff 10% discount.
So Asda do do quite well in that respect.
Also, some stuff (going out of date) gets taken to other local Asdas to be reduced and sold on there.
I imagine that Asda at the very least recover the cost that would otherwise be spent processing it as waste, plus they spread the message that they trust the staff and build some engagement. More staff engagement means more likely to dob those in gaming the system. More staff engagement equals happier more helpful staff against which they probably also get some payback because the wages are boosted by the ability to get cheap food.
I think it is a win win winny win win for Asda.
sugerbear said:
I think it is a win win winny win win for Asda.
I don't know if it's still done or happens in all Asdas but I happened to go into one at 4PM and there was a big crowd in the entrance area. I asked what was going and was told they were waiting for the 4 o'clock price reductions on bread etc. With that some cages where wheeled out and mayhem ensued!
Du1point8 said:
Even more amusing is the fact that supermarkets used to hand out waste food willingly, until someone got a dodgy stomach and sucessfully sued them for food posioning, it was then deemed that anything out of date or past its sell by date was not allowed to give to people and must be disposed of.
I tried looking for freegans who have sued. Have you a link?I was all for it [thinking homeless] until it turned out they were squatters.
Now Iceland have shat themselves and backed off and the
scum have won a major pr scoop.
PS If you think squatting is just a random occurrence where they just happen to turn up and find sanctuary then you are unfortunately deluded.
Now Iceland have shat themselves and backed off and the
scum have won a major pr scoop.PS If you think squatting is just a random occurrence where they just happen to turn up and find sanctuary then you are unfortunately deluded.
MentalSarcasm said:
Personally I think that homeless charities should be allowed to sign a document stating that they won't sue if someone gets sick, and in return supermarkets donate their one-day-out-of-date food to them.
I'm sure supermarkets would not throw food away if there was any earthly chance it was still sellable in some way. If it were decreed people could eat it, they would immediately be in court demanding that they can sell it publicly.
Mojocvh said:
Now Iceland have shat themselves and backed off and the scum have won a major pr scoop.
Iceland didn't shat themselves as, according to the report I read, they knew nothing about this prosecution until the press got hold of it. It was all done by the police and cps without Iceland's knowledge. scum have won a major pr scoop.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff