Policeman arrests protestor for 'alleged' (made-up) DUI

Policeman arrests protestor for 'alleged' (made-up) DUI

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RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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aw51 121565 said:
Cover up commences then.

I know someone who's gone off to Barton Moss. A bid of an idealist and definitely not a trouble maker or violent. The police are clearly there to smash the protesters and clear the way for a lot of money to be made for their paymasters.

carinaman

21,284 posts

172 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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RedTrident said:
Cover up commences then.
I was thinking that the IPCC may come good on this one. The evidence is in the public domain, so they can't do what they did with the Channel 4 News footage of the shove on Tomlinson. They can't throw their weight around waving an injunction around as the footage has been seen.

Secondly should it have got as far as the court? What were the police doing taking it that far?

Peter Oborne said in this article, that anybody that spends anytime in Courts comes across dodgy cases that shouldn't be there, and that the MITCHELL stitch up was the tip of the Iceberg:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...

Perhaps the tide has turned? Perhaps even the IPCC despite their lack of resources and their staff of graduates and ex-police officers knows that there is less leeway for them to get away with nonsense.

I was incredulous that they got a Liverpool Football Club fans club to hand out flyers at a Fulham game last year appealing for more witnesses from the Hillsborough game, and was therefore really angry when shortly afterwards it was announced that a police video of happened at Hillsborough had had 10 minutes of footage 'missing'. I think the term deleted may apply.

Despite my anger and dismay at that 'missing' ten minutes of video, likening it to the stuff Anthony Hamilton was saying in his court case with Paul di Resta, it seems the IPCC have got over 200 new leads about Hillsborough, but I don't know how many, if any at all, were the result of the distribution of flyers appealing for leads at that Fulham match, and such an action did seem like the usual brand management operations routinely done by the police.

I think there's a possibility that the IPCC may do a passable job on this one.

carinaman

21,284 posts

172 months

Saturday 22nd October 2016
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Week long Misconduct hearing started last week at the behest of the IPCC.

Was it held in public?

s3fella

10,524 posts

187 months

Saturday 22nd October 2016
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carinaman said:
Week long Misconduct hearing started last week at the behest of the IPCC.

Was it held in public?
How the fk can stuff like this take 2.5 years to get heard?

fking pisstaking public sector s.

carinaman

21,284 posts

172 months

Saturday 22nd October 2016
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The wheels of justice turn slowly.

And they've had a lot of practice at kicking balls into the long grass.

As Theresa May gave the IPCC loads more money when she was Home Secretary perhaps things will improve.

carinaman

21,284 posts

172 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greate...

I am slow. He was cleared.

So Inspector Kehoe didn't see Dr Peers drive to the site but accused him of drink driving anyway?


RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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As predictable as night follows day. What a sorry excuse of the word 'Independent'. At least the camera stopped an innocent man from being convicted.

Police Officers should all be made to wear a camera. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear and all that...

numtumfutunch

4,721 posts

138 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Copper behaves like arse and is cleared

And you wonder why so many people dont trust the Police....................

dandarez

13,274 posts

283 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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I made the 4th comment to this thread way back in early 2014.

My comments are more relevant now than then.

Robert Peel will be spinning in his grave.

My (now) 6 year old granddaughter has more people skills.

CLEARED?
Oh, I f. give up.

dandarez

13,274 posts

283 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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numtumfutunch said:
Copper POLICE INSPECTOR behaves like arse and is cleared

And you wonder why so many people dont trust the Police....................
EFA

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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You all know much better than the panel who investigated the matter. You can't possibly be wrong, even though you have a fraction of the information that would have been captured by the investigation.




TerryThomas

1,228 posts

91 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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La Liga said:
You all know much better than the panel who investigated the matter. You can't possibly be wrong, even though you have a fraction of the information that would have been captured by the investigation.
Are you a copper?

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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stitched

3,813 posts

173 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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La Liga said:
You all know much better than the panel who investigated the matter. You can't possibly be wrong, even though you have a fraction of the information that would have been captured by the investigation.
I have no legal qualifications, If I choose to charitably allow that the police officer actually mis heard tea as two and believed that the arrestee had arrived in a car then his behaviour can be, just, deemed reasonable.
What I really can't condone is what appears to be a general hatred of video cameras from people who should welcome them.
If there is nothing to hide then perhaps you or other BiB could explain the general reluctance of your colleagues to being filmed?

don4l

10,058 posts

176 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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La Liga said:
You all know much better than the panel who investigated the matter. You can't possibly be wrong, even though you have a fraction of the information that would have been captured by the investigation.
The officer could not have seen Peers driving because his car was being repaired at a garage.

How can someone be accused of drink driving when they don't even have a car?


55palfers

5,905 posts

164 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Was the choice to go for "Gross misconduct" deliberate as it more difficult to prove?

Driller

8,310 posts

278 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Oh you lot are just conspiracy theorists, this never happens, imagine the number of people required to keep their mouths shut for such a cover up, someone would blab, it would never work, you tinfoil hatters etc etc blabla

s3fella

10,524 posts

187 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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numtumfutunch said:
Copper behaves like arse and is cleared

And you wonder why so many people dont trust the Police....................
Amazing isn't it.

From the 159mph guy "evaluating performance", the special constable on her phone who killed that biker down in Dorset, to the WPC with the "non vicious" dog that killed her nephew couple of weeks back, "NOTHING TO SEE HERE!"

And in EVERY such case, if it was a mere MOP, they'd be banged up.

Edited by s3fella on Tuesday 25th October 10:50

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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Why have the GMP dismissed people this year for gross misconduct? Or do the senior officers involved like risking their careers and make corrupt decisions just for fun now and again?

stitched said:
What I really can't condone is what appears to be a general hatred of video cameras from people who should welcome them. If there is nothing to hide then perhaps you or other BiB could explain the general reluctance of your colleagues to being filmed.
Cameras reduce complaints which is a positive and have a good impact in terms of evidence-gathering. The Home Office should do a bulk-buy of equipment and supply every force. If I were a senior officer I certainly wouldn't be buying them when having to make further savings.

I don't think there's a general reluctance. There are millions of interactions which involve people filming so it's hardly a surprising thing to occur.

55palfers said:
Was the choice to go for "Gross misconduct" deliberate as it more difficult to prove?
I'm pretty sure all the lower-level misconduct outcomes are still available.

s3fella said:
And in EVERY such case, if it was a mere MOP, they'd be banged up.
That you write something shows how little you actually know to those who know about the subject matter.

poo at Paul's

14,143 posts

175 months

Tuesday 25th October 2016
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La Liga said:
hat you write something shows how little you actually know to those who know about the subject matter.
Really? You think the 159mph copper case was legit? The Dorset case was some special who admitted being on her hand held phone but "on speaker" and yet MOPS are being prosecuted for merely TOUCHING their phones, let alone killing some innocent guy on a motorbike!

As for the dog case, the day after, the Police Commissioner said that the dog had no "history" and was "not at all vicious"..........and yet it had just been put down.... he went on to say there would be no criminal investigation.....the day after the incident! That sounds like a proper thorough job!!


Nothing to see here, indeed!

Coppers cover up for coppers, always have, always will, and it's YOU that is in the clouds if you pretend otherwise!! If a copper gets done for Gross misconduct, it must be embarrassingly obvious or they want shot of him or her for another reason!

But please condescend away at us.

(weird isn't it that this result was called many months ago, on this very thread? !) :scratchin:

But anyone who points that out "knows nothing" according to you.

I 'spect you think the Hilsborough lot were genuine good honest plod, and the Rotherham lot just had a bad day, eh? Or are those cases where the system works in your opinion......yeah, after 25 years and several tax payer funded enquiries it works.