British public wrong about nearly everything...
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Getragdogleg said:
Some of the questions would get different answers depending on where you are in the country. The thing I don't like about this article is it is based on a study of a little over a thousand people. That is a very tiny number and a big headline to attach to it.
...is the completely wrong answer.Dr Roger Mortimore Director of Political Analysis MORI said:
How can a sample of only 1,000 or 2,000 possibly reflect the opinions of 42 million Britons within a 3% margin of error?
There is time-honoured answer to this question that goes back to George Gallup, the American who first developed opinion polling in the 1930s: if you have a large bowl of soup, you don't have to drink the whole bowl to decide if it has too much salt in it - just stir it well, and one spoonful will suffice.
The full article (and it's actually quite interesting) can be found hereThere is time-honoured answer to this question that goes back to George Gallup, the American who first developed opinion polling in the 1930s: if you have a large bowl of soup, you don't have to drink the whole bowl to decide if it has too much salt in it - just stir it well, and one spoonful will suffice.
Breadvan72 said:
dandarez said:
Not by me. Like all societies today, they'll have been infiltrated by some other connection.
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Do tell! Who is infiltrating the Royal Statto Soc? Bilderbergs? Lefties? People wot is RUBIHS at sumz? ...
However, to suggest that some members are light sponge cakes covered in marzipan is sheer tinfoil hattery.
spitsfire said:
Dr Roger Mortimore Director of Political Analysis MORI said:
How can a sample of only 1,000 or 2,000 possibly reflect the opinions of 42 million Britons within a 3% margin of error?
There is time-honoured answer to this question that goes back to George Gallup, the American who first developed opinion polling in the 1930s: if you have a large bowl of soup, you don't have to drink the whole bowl to decide if it has too much salt in it - just stir it well, and one spoonful will suffice.
There is time-honoured answer to this question that goes back to George Gallup, the American who first developed opinion polling in the 1930s: if you have a large bowl of soup, you don't have to drink the whole bowl to decide if it has too much salt in it - just stir it well, and one spoonful will suffice.
I simply don't trust the accuracy of these sorts of surveys. I also do not think the establishment, including the RSS are uninfluenced by groupthink.
If I take my experience on the real world using a single issue, racism, as an example I am dismayed to find that I encounter a picture of a far more racist society than the like of the BBC would have us believe. Taking the bowl of soup analogy, I think on this topic alone, you could see how and where massive variations in attitude exist within the same city, let alone the same country. I think the lefty pinkos think that if they repeat the message and ideology often enough, it will make it so. But as with sexism, if attitudes change, they do so very slowly and those away from the nice, comfortable, educated middle-class enclaves are stubbornly slow adopters.
If I take my experience on the real world using a single issue, racism, as an example I am dismayed to find that I encounter a picture of a far more racist society than the like of the BBC would have us believe. Taking the bowl of soup analogy, I think on this topic alone, you could see how and where massive variations in attitude exist within the same city, let alone the same country. I think the lefty pinkos think that if they repeat the message and ideology often enough, it will make it so. But as with sexism, if attitudes change, they do so very slowly and those away from the nice, comfortable, educated middle-class enclaves are stubbornly slow adopters.
Art0ir said:
Digga said:
i think they should re-phrase the article to read, "people who have time to do phone surveys aren't that bright".
Spot on. Although I accept that may still represent a majority of the population...O/T FFS who, why?! Either don't bag it and leave it on the hillside to nature, or bag it and remove it, but don't bag it and then sling it in a hedge so it can't biodegrade.
Breadvan72 said:
Next you'll be telling me Pharrell Williams isn't a Vampire.Breadvan72 said:
Up all night to get lucky.
I remember up all night.There was a recent article in some magazine or other about whether those who profess to believe in creationism really do. It was felt that they were only answering as they felt they should. Most reckoned they went to church every week but observations suggested that only, I think, a third went 'religiously'.
I have to admit not really believing that 50% of adults in the USA believe the world is just a few years old. They are just victims of the bullying of the fundamentalists.
I'm really quite surprised that people have such faith in The Independent.
As a Daily Mail reader, I distrust anything that is printed in either The Independent or The Guardian. So, I was not surprised to see that the article contained some outright lies.
For example, the article claims that Foreign Aid is only 1.1% of Government spending. This is a gross understatement. The actual figure is nearly double that as a percentage of central government spending. If you include Local Government spending, then it is still out by more than 50%.
As a Daily Mail reader, I distrust anything that is printed in either The Independent or The Guardian. So, I was not surprised to see that the article contained some outright lies.
For example, the article claims that Foreign Aid is only 1.1% of Government spending. This is a gross understatement. The actual figure is nearly double that as a percentage of central government spending. If you include Local Government spending, then it is still out by more than 50%.
don4l said:
As a Daily Mail reader...
Quoted for posterity. It is perversely refreshing to see someone own up to this. Do you read it for a bet, for the bikini shots, or because it represents your world view? If the latter, I wonder what it must be like to live in a world of ignorance, fear, and hate.I don't have a favourite newspaper, and don't read any of them on a daily basis or trust any of them completely, but if I really had to pick one paper I would say that despite the depredations of the Digger the Times is still OK ish, a bit.
Breadvan72 said:
don4l said:
As a Daily Mail reader...
Quoted for posterity. It is perversely refreshing to see someone own up to this. Do you read it for a bet, for the bikini shots, or because it represents your world view? If the latter, I wonder what it must be like to live in a world of ignorance, fear, and hate.I don't have a favourite newspaper, and don't read any of them on a daily basis or trust any of them completely, but if I really had to pick one paper I would say that despite the depredations of the Digger the Times is still OK ish, a bit.
Edited by don4l on Wednesday 19th February 09:31
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