TFL Tube Strikes
Discussion
croyde said:
Left half an hour early for work yesterday and was half an hour early which allowed a lunchtime drink at the pub before going in 
hic!
Shouldnt lunchtime drinks be at lunchtime and not before going into work? hic!Im assuming you are a 9-5 and not midday onwards.
<cough>Alkie</cough>
Du1point8 said:
Shouldnt lunchtime drinks be at lunchtime and not before going into work?
Im assuming you are a 9-5 and not midday onwards.
<cough>Alkie</cough>
Im assuming you are a 9-5 and not midday onwards.
<cough>Alkie</cough>
Thankfully not 9-5 currently. Yesterday was lunchtime drink before work and then some more at tea time. Was still working at 11pm tho'. Luckily free cab home.
vonuber said:
drivetrain said:
silverthorn2151 said:
TheAngryDog said:
silverthorn2151 said:
Bloody northeners. This afternoons whippet racing finish early eh?
Oi. I'm a Northerner 
Du1point8 said:
blindswelledrat said:
Out of interest, does anyone actually know why they are striking?
I realise that the premise is the closing of ticket offices but it has next to no effect on the union members hence I don't understand what their beef is? I assume I am missing something?
Crow justifying his job I presume.I realise that the premise is the closing of ticket offices but it has next to no effect on the union members hence I don't understand what their beef is? I assume I am missing something?
All he is doing is putting his union members out of jobs quicker when they ramp up the production unmanned trains.
Randy Winkman said:
He knows that ultimately, those jobs will be screwed in the race to the bottom. His job is to get the best for his current members - and I think he does that 100%. If only the blokes that ran most big UK business did as good a job as him.
There is no one else, Union leader or Business leader, that has the luxury that he does of an unregulated monopoly.He has a bottomless pit of money via tube fares due to the fact that it is an utterly essential service.
In any other industry -strike threats would be countered with "here is our balance sheet- there is no money for what you want".
TFL can't do that because there is always more money and always the option of fare hikes and most importantly the damage to the economy from tubes being out of action is so huge that they cannot fight him.
There is nothing special about Bob Crow, other than the fortunate industry he is in, and he is abusing that privilege.
Bob Crow epitomises the slimy underbelly of socialism. The abuse of the charitable ideals. He is exactly the same as the person who refuses to work because it's easier to claim benefits which is his right!
Quite an insight into the complex reasons for the strike 
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/07/bo...
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/07/bo...
pork911 said:
Quite an insight into the complex reasons for the strike
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/07/bo...
That is truly quite special in so many ways. Tbh, neither side comes out looking particularly rosy, but Crow appears to have reached new levels of mental which is funny and scary in equal measure.http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/07/bo...
Daft thing is, if union/him actually took 10s to properly explain in a non extreme left wing militant frothing at the mouth style sound bites way exactly what was going on, people would have more sympathy for the whole situation. Whole thing sounds to me like LUL were a bit disorganised, the union over reacted and started frothing. Problem is, frothing turned into strikes which it never should have as we shouldn't have the daft situation where when ~30% of people in a union can bring the capital to a standstill.
I don't understand why our tube network needs manned ticket offices or drivers? Other tube networks get by just fine without. I understand that for those staff who've enjoyed fantastic pay and conditions for the low qualified jobs it'll be a wrench, but the transport system is not a charity and shouldn't be held to ransom to keep a relatively small number of unnecessary employees in cushy numbers.
On a more general note, Unions become more dangerous to their own members the more powerful they get. Eventually the relations with unions become such a sticky and expensive point that employers ditch the relationship altogether. The Union leaders then shout, from their subsidised council houses and £150,000 salaries, that it's all the fault of the 'fat cats'. No doubt they know the fat cats well, as they share the same tastes in restaurants, cigars and holiday locations.
On a more general note, Unions become more dangerous to their own members the more powerful they get. Eventually the relations with unions become such a sticky and expensive point that employers ditch the relationship altogether. The Union leaders then shout, from their subsidised council houses and £150,000 salaries, that it's all the fault of the 'fat cats'. No doubt they know the fat cats well, as they share the same tastes in restaurants, cigars and holiday locations.
Foppo said:
It's a old trick.Provoke the Union and employees blame the Union Leader.Have a closer look at the Boss of London Underground and what his agenda is.
Don'tfall for it Bob and don't debate with the Mayor of London.He is a clown.>
No. I'm in the RMT, working in London, and I can tell you quite unequivocally that this whole thing was engineered by the union. They have been looking for an excuse to strike for ANY reason. The emails from them over the last year make this very plain.Don'tfall for it Bob and don't debate with the Mayor of London.He is a clown.>
I'm perfectly willing to go on strike for a valid reason, (although in the ten years I've worked in this industry I haven't yet seen a valid reason so have never gone on strike), but that is not what this is. Therefore myself and my immediate work colleagues are not striking, although we too are being affected by the militant members - I've had to work from home and some of my guys have been denied access to work sites.
This is nothing more than a power play by the militant leaders of the union and, frankly, Crow et al can kiss my hairy swingers.
I hope he got sunburn on his holiday paid for by my £20 monthly sub's.
Chlamydia said:
No. I'm in the RMT, working in London, and I can tell you quite unequivocally that this whole thing was engineered by the union. They have been looking for an excuse to strike for ANY reason. The emails from them over the last year make this very plain.
I'm perfectly willing to go on strike for a valid reason, (although in the ten years I've worked in this industry I haven't yet seen a valid reason so have never gone on strike), but that is not what this is. Therefore myself and my immediate work colleagues are not striking, although we too are being affected by the militant members - I've had to work from home and some of my guys have been denied access to work sites.
This is nothing more than a power play by the militant leaders of the union and, frankly, Crow et al can kiss my hairy swingers.
I hope he got sunburn on his holiday paid for by my £20 monthly sub's.
Is there pressure for you to remain in the union?I'm perfectly willing to go on strike for a valid reason, (although in the ten years I've worked in this industry I haven't yet seen a valid reason so have never gone on strike), but that is not what this is. Therefore myself and my immediate work colleagues are not striking, although we too are being affected by the militant members - I've had to work from home and some of my guys have been denied access to work sites.
This is nothing more than a power play by the militant leaders of the union and, frankly, Crow et al can kiss my hairy swingers.
I hope he got sunburn on his holiday paid for by my £20 monthly sub's.
Mario149 said:
Chlamydia said:
Unfortunately yes; it's a lot easier to get things done if you're in the union.
Can you elaborate a little? I'd certainly be interested to hear moresleep envy said:
Balls...was looking forward to commuting down the stairs again.In all fairness this is good news.
sleep envy said:
-crookedtail- said:
sleep envy said:
Balls...was looking forward to commuting down the stairs again.In all fairness this is good news.
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