1st UK prosecution for Female Genital Mutilation "imminent"

[mph1977]

Zod said:

The only people who ever mention doing away with free at the point of use healthcare are Labour, who make baseless claims that it's the Tories' wicked plan to do so.

plus the PH sociopaths libertarians - look at the number of threads on PH that say the NHS should be done away with a replaced with private paid for services , generally on the basis of shoddy reporting aobut people who fail to ask for appropriate GP appointments or have managed to completely miss the the whole alternatives to A+E publicity that has been extensively put across local radio, busses, road side adverts , internet advertsing and on the side of NHS Ambulances ( along with FAST test CVA publicity)

[otolith]

I think you are assuming that people who want the provider outsourcing also want the funding model changed. I don't see any evidence of that.

[mph1977]

otolith said:

I think you are assuming that people who want the provider outsourcing also want the funding model changed. I don't see any evidence of that.

A trip to an optometrist may be in order.

[IroningMan]

mph1977 said:

otolith said:

I think you are assuming that people who want the provider outsourcing also want the funding model changed. I don't see any evidence of that.

A trip to an optometrist may be in order.

Would it cost anything?

[Robb F]

dave_s13 said:

According to that criteria (number 3) I underwent MGM last saturday morning when I had a vasectomy.

Does this now mean I need a cuddle or something.

You can't genuinely think that is a counter argument can you?

[The Don of Croy]

Having watched Fiona Bruce heralding this breakthrough on the news last week, there was no mention of religion. None. It is not a religious matter.

She did however mention cultures with backgrounds in Africa, the ME, and Asia.

As we all originate from these areas, it must therefore be us that is the problem.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali speaks extensively about this, but she may be mistaken as she still thinks Mohammedism might be the problem.

[Pesty]

Seriously? This guy thought the help line was there to fking help him mutilate his own daughter. You never going to educate this out of people who think it's so normal that you can phone up the fking help line to have it done.


"Prosecutors said they had also looked at four other cases – one of which was new and three that were reconsidered after decisions to take no further action – and found there was insufficient evidence to bring charges.

One of the old cases involved a man calling an FGM helpline, intended for victims, to ask for the procedure to be carried out on his two daughters.

The new case involved two parents accused of taking their daughter abroad to have FGM."



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10713...

[paul.deitch]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28466434

Amazing how barbaric religion and politics can be!

I propose removing the same "analog" items from all of the men suggesting this and see how they feel.

[Pesty]

one Hospital deals with 1,500 cases of Female Genital Mutilation in just five years with doctors seeing six victims a week

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2926708/A-...

[otolith]

FOI request that comes from;

http://www.heartofengland.nhs.uk/foi-3023-fgm/

Note that these are mutilated women being picked up by midwives when they are pregnant, not women who have just been mutilated turning up for help with their injuries. It says that none of the mutilation took place in the UK, however the pertinent question for me would be how many were resident in the UK at the time they were mutilated.

[dave_s13]

Robb F said:

dave_s13 said:

According to that criteria (number 3) I underwent MGM last saturday morning when I had a vasectomy.

Does this now mean I need a cuddle or something.

You can't genuinely think that is a counter argument can you?

Counter argument to what? It was a remark on the ridiculous use of dictionary definitions of the word mutilation.

My only point was that you can't compare FGM to circumcision.

There are some right funny s on here.

[HertsBiker]

So all the blokes, who want the women done, how do they react to the reduced sex drive of the women? Surely it's not what anyone wants. And I am massively opposed to FGM, women are lovely like they are, flaps and all!

[Martin4x4]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/22/doc...

He was told by the midwife that what he was doing was illegal, claims he didn't know, then failed to correct his actions.

What is unclear is the role of the second defendant.

[mph1977]

HertsBiker said:

So all the blokes, who want the women done, how do they react to the reduced sex drive of the women? Surely it's not what anyone wants. And I am massively opposed to FGM, women are lovely like they are, flaps and all!

'women are for babies, boys ( and under-age white girls ) are for fun ' ... ?

plus the old chestnut of you are only gay if you are the receptive partner ... hence the use of the term 'men who have sex with men' in various literature as those who are tops only don;t necessarily identify as 'gay'

Edited by mph1977 on Monday 26th January 21:16

[Mr_B]

Martin4x4 said:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/22/doc...

He was told by the midwife that what he was doing was illegal, claims he didn't know, then failed to correct his actions.

What is unclear is the role of the second defendant.

FGM on the NHS.

[Skywalker]

This whole topic makes me shudder with anger & frustration.

The 1980s TV Adverts about the threat of AIDS/HIV were sometimes hard hitting - but the raised awareness. The recent ones about Rape dur to lack of consent through booze were good.

Why, for the love of Zarquon (or whichever Diety you wish to hold dear), is the same level of publicity and awareness not more prevalent and out there?

The money is not the issue - I can only conclude that 'someone' does not wish to upset 'someone else's' cultural norms & values by pointing out that FGM is uncultured, uncivilised, unexcusable and fking disgusting.

The State needs to challenge some of these peasant driven beliefs.

[jogon]

1,500 cases of FGM reported over the last 5 years in one Birmingham hospital.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/01/29/1500-ca...

Do they follow up these incidents like they do when your child has a few bruises on their arm. Nope still no convictions.

[otolith]

That's the freedom of information act linked above.

Note that these are not cases where a kid has come in with bleeding wounds, they are cases where mutilations done in the past have been noticed in routine examinations. They can cause complications in childbirth.

The FOI request says that they don't believe any of the cases occurred in the UK.

It isn't clear whether that means that they were resident in the UK and taken abroad to be mutilated, or whether they are in fact immigrants from countries where FGM took place before they came to the UK.

I suspect the latter.

[Murcielago_Boy]

This SHOULD be criminal.

But then why isn't baby circumcision also criminal? That's non-consensual male genital mutilation. Or is THAT ok because your imaginary says it's OK and we have to respect the wishes of the adherents of certain imaginary friends...

[Mojooo]

I suspect this Dr may 'get off' - if he was putting back what was there on the basis that if he didnt then there would be pain then it may be harsh to convict.

I thought I had read he stitched her back up because of bleeding.