Hairy Cornflake (DLT) NOT GUILTY
Discussion
La Liga said:
ot really, they found the threshold test was met for 12 charges - hardly a pile driver. The circumstances resulted in a conviction as per standard procedure where the presumption is re-trail in such circumstances.
The problem is people like you are unable to see it's just par for the course because you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how things work and their justifications.
that's the point, the 12 original charges meet your test bull they were 100% failures.The problem is people like you are unable to see it's just par for the course because you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how things work and their justifications.
what does that tell you about your test?
the only one to stick was the late pinned one, and on it;s own, hardly crime of the century is it?
look, I am not defending sex crimes, but most normal reasonable people would not class this as a hard-core sex offender.
it will be interesting to see what punishment is dished out, way I see it, any more than a slap on the wrist is massively disproportionate when you consider what rapists and murders have got, or are you going to claim it's all the same as he is a sex offender?
once his name is on that register, it's black and white.
I am struggling to see how anybody can condone what has happened as justice both from DTL's perspective and more importantly, from ours as the tax paying public.
we are constantly told resources are scarce and they cant investigate this and that, yet they have wasted how many man ours and £ chasing a pensioner over squeezing a girls boobs 20 years ago, whist in the more recent past we have ignored 1,400 children being sex trafficked.
please explain, what have I missed?
Scuffers said:
that's the point, the 12 original charges meet your test bull they were 100% failures.
Why's it a failure if a jury decides there's reasonable doubt? That's the system working. Scuffers said:
what does that tell you about your test?
A realistic prospect of conviction is a lower threshold. There is ample room between that and a conviction to find someone NG. Scuffers said:
the only one to stick was the late pinned one, and on it;s own, hardly crime of the century is it?
No, it's not. But even in the second trial it was with two more, and it's the only one to survive from 13. Scuffers said:
look, I am not defending sex crimes, but most normal reasonable people would not class this as a hard-core sex offender.
Who is arguing he is? Scuffers said:
it will be interesting to see what punishment is dished out, way I see it, any more than a slap on the wrist is massively disproportionate when you consider what rapists and murders have got, or are you going to claim it's all the same as he is a sex offender?
I think a suspended sentence is in order, but he's had a trial so it may be borderline. Scuffers said:
once his name is on that register, it's black and white.
He is a a sex offender, therefore he goes on the register. Scuffers said:
I am struggling to see how anybody can condone what has happened as justice both from DTL's perspective and more importantly, from ours as the tax paying public.
If he doesn't plead guilty to an offence where there's sufficient evidence, what do we do? Back down? Scuffers said:
we are constantly told resources are scarce and they cant investigate this and that, yet they have wasted how many man ours and £ chasing a pensioner over squeezing a girls boobs 20 years ago, whist in the more recent past we have ignored 1,400 children being sex trafficked.
please explain, what have I missed?
I think we're into a dangerous world if we say "we're not going to investigate this because it's less serious than something in another area". please explain, what have I missed?
Remember there were 12 original charges, too.
Incompetence in one area doesn't justify not doing things correctly in others.
If at first you don't succeed, try, try, try again...
What a joke.
If you have enough trials, and enough charges, you WILL be found guilty of something - pathetic.
And a 3rd trial impending as well, oh joy.
Not to forget best of all 'possible 10 yr sentence'
Now I know I've been beamed to planet WTF sometime, this can't be Planet Earth.
What a joke.
If you have enough trials, and enough charges, you WILL be found guilty of something - pathetic.
And a 3rd trial impending as well, oh joy.
Not to forget best of all 'possible 10 yr sentence'
Now I know I've been beamed to planet WTF sometime, this can't be Planet Earth.
One of our admin team here used to work at a local/county radio station where DLT was a regular visitor.
Apparently he was very hands on and had quite a reputation for being a groper.
My colleague recounts one tale whereby a young female made a complaint and was dismissed rather than any action being taken against the'star'.
She says from her years in radio you can see how people like Saville etc. get away with stuff because management are desperate not to offend them and also there is a lot of hero-worship and adulation of the 'talent'. A lot of stuff that would get normal people sacked is brushed under the carpet and seen as just 'being a character' or as a by-product of being talented.
Apparently he was very hands on and had quite a reputation for being a groper.
My colleague recounts one tale whereby a young female made a complaint and was dismissed rather than any action being taken against the'star'.
She says from her years in radio you can see how people like Saville etc. get away with stuff because management are desperate not to offend them and also there is a lot of hero-worship and adulation of the 'talent'. A lot of stuff that would get normal people sacked is brushed under the carpet and seen as just 'being a character' or as a by-product of being talented.
Aren't attitudes strange? A man fondles a woman outside her clothing 20 years ago and is now destroyed, both his career and financially, in trying to defend himself. Another public figure, calling himself 'Honourable', repeatedly and in the present day, thrusts his hands down colleagues' and acquaintances' trousers and is applauded back into Parliament with the blessing and approbation of his 'friends'. He goes on to further his glittering career. A PR firm bills him a monthly account (£1200) to be paid until 2016 for their services leading up to his trial. Perhaps a tax or expenses angle? Sick justice and hopelessly skewed mores abetted by skilled advocacy.
Welshbeef said:
That's true and its also true that the vast majority of UK men have cupped a ladies boobies without permission end result "game on", or her man punches you or she doesn't appreciate it and knees you in the balls.
Let's says his was slightly different as he did it while sober and arguably within his work remit - tenuous possibly - so if joe Bloggs cupped a ladies boobies while at work it would be gross misconduct and P45 time - I'd struggle to see many companies just giving a final written warning as the person doing the boobs cupping would have made himself in an untenable position.
Do you seriously believe that? Maybe in your circles, but certainly not in most decent societies. Let's says his was slightly different as he did it while sober and arguably within his work remit - tenuous possibly - so if joe Bloggs cupped a ladies boobies while at work it would be gross misconduct and P45 time - I'd struggle to see many companies just giving a final written warning as the person doing the boobs cupping would have made himself in an untenable position.
rupert the dog said:
Welshbeef said:
That's true and its also true that the vast majority of UK men have cupped a ladies boobies without permission end result "game on", or her man punches you or she doesn't appreciate it and knees you in the balls.
Let's says his was slightly different as he did it while sober and arguably within his work remit - tenuous possibly - so if joe Bloggs cupped a ladies boobies while at work it would be gross misconduct and P45 time - I'd struggle to see many companies just giving a final written warning as the person doing the boobs cupping would have made himself in an untenable position.
Do you seriously believe that? Maybe in your circles, but certainly not in most decent societies. Let's says his was slightly different as he did it while sober and arguably within his work remit - tenuous possibly - so if joe Bloggs cupped a ladies boobies while at work it would be gross misconduct and P45 time - I'd struggle to see many companies just giving a final written warning as the person doing the boobs cupping would have made himself in an untenable position.
"I bet you 50p I can weigh your boobs without touching them".
"Go on then".
"Wahay (jiggle). Sod it, that's worth 50p".
You either got a slap or a date...
WinstonWolf said:
Friday night out in town, a regular scenario when I was younger...
"I bet you 50p I can weigh your boobs without touching them".
"Go on then".
"Wahay (jiggle). Sod it, that's worth 50p".
You either got a slap or a date...
If they told you to f"I bet you 50p I can weigh your boobs without touching them".
"Go on then".
"Wahay (jiggle). Sod it, that's worth 50p".
You either got a slap or a date...
k off did you carry on regardless?Bill said:
WinstonWolf said:
Friday night out in town, a regular scenario when I was younger...
"I bet you 50p I can weigh your boobs without touching them".
"Go on then".
"Wahay (jiggle). Sod it, that's worth 50p".
You either got a slap or a date...
If they told you to f"I bet you 50p I can weigh your boobs without touching them".
"Go on then".
"Wahay (jiggle). Sod it, that's worth 50p".
You either got a slap or a date...
k off did you carry on regardless?k?". He got quite a few slapped faces, but also a hell of a lot of shags!Bill said:
WinstonWolf said:
Friday night out in town, a regular scenario when I was younger...
"I bet you 50p I can weigh your boobs without touching them".
"Go on then".
"Wahay (jiggle). Sod it, that's worth 50p".
You either got a slap or a date...
If they told you to f"I bet you 50p I can weigh your boobs without touching them".
"Go on then".
"Wahay (jiggle). Sod it, that's worth 50p".
You either got a slap or a date...
k off did you carry on regardless?People weren't so up tight back then...
Even in the mid-80s there were spread full frontal nudity calenders in my workplace, I remember one engineer had a massive collection of impossibly massive jugs magazines always spilling out from under his bench. You would get the sack instantly these days if you brought such things into the workplace.
Times do change. It was acceptable in the 80s! You cannot judge historic actions by today's values.
And as I've said before, I've experienced worse from women than DLT is accused of. Should I track them down and have them charged, now that society says I should feel used and abused all of a sudden?
Times do change. It was acceptable in the 80s! You cannot judge historic actions by today's values.
And as I've said before, I've experienced worse from women than DLT is accused of. Should I track them down and have them charged, now that society says I should feel used and abused all of a sudden?
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