War with Russia

[Cobnapint]

abzmike said:

May would call a meeting of COBRA for sure.

It's embarrassing isn't it.

[johnxjsc1985]

We could send in the European Army and May could say how naughty Putin is. I don't think there is anyone on mainland Europe and the UK who would enter into any armed conflict with Russia and Putin knows this and will push and push and push.

[Cobnapint]

We'll probably end up at war with the EU army in a few decades the way things are going at the minute. And I'm not joking.

[toppstuff]

Cobnapint said:

We'll probably end up at war with the EU army in a few decades the way things are going at the minute. And I'm not joking.

Have a x 1000

[Halb]

amgmcqueen said:

What would happen if Putin decided to annex Ukraine?

He'd get all excited, then wake up from his dream

[raftom]

amgmcqueen said:

What would happen if Putin decided to annex Ukraine?

All the other oligarchs would start to become worried about where does he think he is going to get the money for it.

They will not do it. Their modus operandi is doing things on the cheap. Things that have political impact, stirring hornets' nests everywhere they can and generate some nationalistic vigour to keep the suckers at home asleep.

The commitment to a land invasion would be catastrophic. And there's the additional question if they could even do it without air support. Even if they don't receive Patriots from the US, Ukrainian's current surface-to-air defence systems are no joke. They have them in both quantity and quality enough to clear the skies. But even if they could do it, what next? How will they keep a country of 40 million+ people?

They don't have the money for that, assuming they want to keep their current business model which is sucking their natural resources dry and moving gains abroad. Military expenditures were always kept at the minimum. That's were we get the jokes about the ineptitude of regular troops training, Admiral Kuznetsov being towed everywhere, T-14 Armata breaking down on the Red Square (it's been cancelled since), using fake footage for their supposed new cruise missiles and the stshow at Salisbury et al. They've also cancelled development of their 5th generation fighters.

The only armed forces branch that is seeing budget raises is the new National Guard, created in 2016 to keep the people back home in order, because that's their endgame, that's what really matters.

Edited by raftom on Friday 7th December 11:16

[BlackLabel]

Government funded psy-ops team created to combat the Russians have been a bit naughty.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/foreig...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/10/f...

[thetrickcyclist]

X4 F15C v high & V fast in a loose finger 4 heading SSW over Dundee 13 minutes ago....presumably returning from some trade up North, seems it has been busy last few hours...blackjacks skirting UKADE....

[toppstuff]

thetrickcyclist said:

X4 F15C v high & V fast in a loose finger 4 heading SSW .

..this is taken from a Tom Clancy book isn't it ?

TTFN.

[Byker28i]

Troops building on the Ukraine border
https://defence-blog.com/army/satellite-imagery-sh...

[Halb]

toppstuff said:

..this is taken from a Tom Clancy book isn't it ?

TTFN.

It's a quote from Firefox?

[Cobnapint]

Byker28i said:

Troops building on the Ukraine border
https://defence-blog.com/army/satellite-imagery-sh...

Nothing to see. Just an exercise, move along.

[hidetheelephants]

thetrickcyclist said:

X4 F15C v high & V fast in a loose finger 4 heading SSW over Dundee 13 minutes ago....presumably returning from some trade up North, seems it has been busy last few hours...blackjacks skirting UKADE....

Unlikely as it is politically awkward having the USAF do the RAF's QRA for it.

[hidetheelephants]

I missed this at the time, must work harder to reduce my insularity.

Russians being naughty cybervandals; notpetya crayons over multinational computer systems costing several £bn in clean-up.

[Cobnapint]

The Russian anti-doping agency is playing games again.

http://www.espn.com/espnw/sports/article/25589685/...

[Spoon Burner]

hidetheelephants said:

I missed this at the time, must work harder to reduce my insularity.

Russians being naughty cybervandals; notpetya crayons over multinational computer systems costing several £bn in clean-up.

What a fascinating read, thanks for posting.

[garagewidow]

This thread has been quiet recently,any new propaganda on the horizon?

Edited by garagewidow on Saturday 12th January 02:03

[raftom]

Interesting take. Had no idea they were targeting Linkedin too.

How Russia Is Using LinkedIn as a Tool of War Against Its U.S. Enemies

article said:

One night in mid-March, Alan Malcher, a British military veteran, dropped into the Queen’s Arms, a working-class pub in north London. He took a seat at the bar and ordered his customary pint of Foster’s. Within a few minutes, a stranger sidled up, ordered a drink and started a conversation. He soon brought up Russian President Vladimir Putin and began saying positive things about the Moscow-backed separatist civil war in Ukraine.

“He was going on about Putin being a strong leader,” Malcher recalls. “Somebody to admire.” The stranger’s comments, delivered with a thick Slavic accent, made Malcher’s security antennae vibrate: He had recently joined a Washington, D.C.–based think tank involved in combatting Russia’s stealthy infiltration of American social media. So when the stranger made passing reference to Malcher’s army service, he felt a twinge of apprehension. “There’s no way he could have known that except via LinkedIn,” Malcher says, referencing the professional online networking site where he and other critics of Moscow had been active in international affairs discussion groups. An expert in information warfare, Malcher reasoned that the Kremlin had dispatched the stranger to the Queen’s Arms with a message: We know everything about you. Watch your step.

[grumbledoak]

garagewidow said:

This thread has been quiet recently,any new propaganda on the horizon?

raftom said:

Interesting take. Had no idea they were targeting Linkedin too.

How Russia Is Using LinkedIn as a Tool of War Against Its U.S. Enemies

article said:

One night in mid-March, Alan Malcher, a British military veteran, dropped into the Queen’s Arms, a working-class pub in north London. He took a seat at the bar and ordered his customary pint of Foster’s. Within a few minutes, a stranger sidled up, ordered a drink and started a conversation. He soon brought up Russian President Vladimir Putin and began saying positive things about the Moscow-backed separatist civil war in Ukraine.

“He was going on about Putin being a strong leader,” Malcher recalls. “Somebody to admire.” The stranger’s comments, delivered with a thick Slavic accent, made Malcher’s security antennae vibrate: He had recently joined a Washington, D.C.–based think tank involved in combatting Russia’s stealthy infiltration of American social media. So when the stranger made passing reference to Malcher’s army service, he felt a twinge of apprehension. “There’s no way he could have known that except via LinkedIn,” Malcher says, referencing the professional online networking site where he and other critics of Moscow had been active in international affairs discussion groups. An expert in information warfare, Malcher reasoned that the Kremlin had dispatched the stranger to the Queen’s Arms with a message: We know everything about you. Watch your step.

Perfect juxtaposition! I'm quite sure all Russian spies speak with thick accents and just walk up to "experts in information warfare" in the pub!

[Cobnapint]

Putin's popularity is on the wane. It won't stop him winning the next election though.

https://capx.co/putins-domestic-woes-reveal-the-tr...