Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

Malaysia Airlines Plane "Loses Contact"

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Zoobeef

6,004 posts

158 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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Eric Mc said:
Large, heavy pieces such as engines and undercarriage legs will survive quite a long time in the water. There are still quite recognisable aircraft wrecks from World War 2 sitting in lagoons. A couple of years ago, a rich businessman located and recovered from the Atlantic some of the F1 rocket engines that had powered the Apollo 11 Saturn V.




Just had a flick through the Bezos expedition website. Have they made a documentary or program about the recovery do you know?

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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Blaster72 said:
Welshbeef said:
Vaud said:
Welshbeef said:
I'm assuming there would likely be nothing left really now anyway
Why do you assume that? Big stuff like engines aren't going to just disappear.
Hey will rot away/get covered in silt of were blown up ?

Who knows
They won't rot away, at least not for a very, very long time. Distinct possibility they'll never be found though, I agree, if they're at the bottom of the sea they could well stay there lost forever.
For sure BUT it would be a miracle to find it/anything on the seabed especially as weeks after the crash in the Med in a tiny area there is still no sign of finding that... Now try billions of square miles

Blaster72

10,838 posts

197 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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Yep, couldn't agree more. We may only ever find lighter debris that is washed up and nothing more.

Steffan

10,362 posts

228 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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Welshbeef said:
Blaster72 said:
Welshbeef said:
Vaud said:
Welshbeef said:
I'm assuming there would likely be nothing left really now anyway
Why do you assume that? Big stuff like engines aren't going to just disappear.
Hey will rot away/get covered in silt of were blown up ?

Who knows
They won't rot away, at least not for a very, very long time. Distinct possibility they'll never be found though, I agree, if they're at the bottom of the sea they could well stay there lost forever.
For sure BUT it would be a miracle to find it/anything on the seabed especially as weeks after the crash in the Med in a tiny area there is still no sign of finding that... Now try billions of square miles
I do agree with Welshbeef that there is certainly considerable doubt about the recovery in the immediate future of substantial debris from the tragedy. However never, is a very long time. If the searches are continued and widened then in time there may be substantive discovery of the crash site. I would expect there to be some remains from the major components which might clearly dentify the plane. It is also possible that the flight recorders are still with the debris and some information may be gained in time.

But currently it is a tragedy with very little explanations. My thoughts go to those killed and their families. I do hope some closure can be found.

Vaud

50,503 posts

155 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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Welshbeef said:
Now try billions of square miles
Maybe a few million, but the whole surface of the earth is only 510m sq km.

MartG

20,678 posts

204 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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Vaud said:
Welshbeef said:
Now try billions of square miles
Maybe a few million, but the whole surface of the earth is only 510m sq km.
You're forgetting all the 'it was aliens' theories, so you have to include the surface area of the moon, Mars, etc. winkjester

Vaud

50,503 posts

155 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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MartG said:
You're forgetting all the 'it was aliens' theories, so you have to include the surface area of the moon, Mars, etc. winkjester
I'm sure AreOut will be along in a minute....

SilverSpur

20,911 posts

247 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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Would the black boxes have any real info on them even if found? I think they have no more than two hours recording on them, is that correct? Or is that just the voice recorder?

If it flew for 6 hours after the incident, would it have the info we need to understand what occurred?

Blaster72

10,838 posts

197 months

Friday 10th June 2016
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25 hours for the flight recorder so would capture the entire flight if it's ever found.

type-r

14,071 posts

213 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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As reported on CNN just now...

A NY magazine claim that the pilot had practiced the 'suicide route' on his flight simulator at home.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1490784/mh370-pilot-...

Starfighter

4,927 posts

178 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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type-r said:
As reported on CNN just now...

A NY magazine claim that the pilot had practiced the 'suicide route' on his flight simulator at home.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1490784/mh370-pilot-...
I though that had been dismissed shortly after the disappearance.

Search to be curtiled shortly if nothing esle is found. We may never know what happened.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-36863527

tenfour

26,140 posts

214 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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So the Malaysian government's been lying?

Well, that has backfired somewhat...

Makes you wonder if they Malays have been deliberately trying to put the search team off the scent.

AreOut

3,658 posts

161 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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it's a heavily corrupted government that would rather put all of this under the rug

Steffan

10,362 posts

228 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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The continuing tragedy of MH370 remains an unsolved mystery. From all I can see of the current results of hugely expensive deep water searches as yet there is no firm evidence of the whereabouts of thè actual plane. Some items that appear to be part of the aircraft have been found some distance from the current search site.

It seems to me that eventually something may turn up that provides sufficient evidence of the probable actual plane location, possibly by back searching the likely distance and direction of travel that such finds might suggest. Until then I think calling the search off is understandable but also understandably unwelcome to the bereaved relatives and family members mourning their loss.

I do think some evidence of what happened to the plane will eventually be discovered. However that could be some considerable tile away. Continuing tragedy for all those desperately tragic victims and relatives. Life can be very ,very cruel, as it was to all those involved, in this terrible event. There are no easy answers, I fear.


Steffan

10,362 posts

228 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Another possibility as to the whereabouts of this plane see:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3690...

It would seem that the current search area has not found any traces whatsoever.

There have been some discoveries but not in the current search area?

Peraps a different search are might prove better?


KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Steffan said:
Peraps a different search are might prove better?
Where would you suggest?

Puggit

48,440 posts

248 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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KTF said:
Steffan said:
Peraps a different search are might prove better?
Where would you suggest?
Read the article...

There was another hypothesis a couple of weeks back that they had been searching too far north, assuming the plane was ditched. Someone had the bright idea that the plane might have glided...

AdeTuono

7,254 posts

227 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Did they ever check it hadn't escaped Earth's gravity and gone into orbit?

rolando

2,150 posts

155 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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AdeTuono said:
Did they ever check it hadn't escaped Earth's gravity and gone into orbit?
Pay attention at the back, that was covered months ago ;-)

Trevatanus

11,123 posts

150 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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AdeTuono said:
Did they ever check it hadn't escaped Earth's gravity and gone into orbit?
Its parked on the Moon next to the Double Decker bus.